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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:00 pm 
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Can ~ count as one word? I suppose I can make the card's name one word if not, it's just more difficult.

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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
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Yes, ~ can count as one word. :)

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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
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you should win for the name alone

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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
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When ~ enters the battlefield, counter all other spells.
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Can ~ count as one word? I suppose I can make the card's name one word if not, it's just more difficult.

The Infinite Hunger

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As ~ enters the battlefield, it devours each other creature. (Those creature's controllers sacrifice them. ~ enters the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter for each creature sacrificed this way.)
0/0


Would this even function as templated? Last I checked, the number of +1/+1 counters granted, depended on the number after the keyword devour... of which this has no number. If I recall you'd have to alter the comp-rules entry for devour to make this function the way you like.

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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:20 pm 
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just make it devour x

edit: no wait nevermind

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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
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I'm pretty sure it requires a number after devour. Like, 99% sure... not meaning to be a dick, as I'm no rules/templating guru, but yeah.

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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
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Exile target creature. You may cast that card this turn.

This is my best idea so far, but it needs the word 'non-token' to work. :(

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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
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No it doesn't; tokens aren't cards so while you can exile a token, it's not breaking the rules as it is.

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I said "Baby, metal is what I need; not some bloody ***** to feed"
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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
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Assume I change the comp rules to turn devour into a keyword action. Welcome to ymtc.

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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
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Changing the Comp Rules to make a card function is sloppy design. I'm just pretty sure that as worded, your card does not function.

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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
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Its not sloppy design when it makes sense and its easy to grok.

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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
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Changing the Comp Rules to make a card function is sloppy design. I'm just pretty sure that as worded, your card does not function.


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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
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Stop disccusing cards before a judge has judged them. It influences judges and its bad ettique.

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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
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LilyStorm wrote:
Its not sloppy design when it makes sense and its easy to grok.

It is sloppy design, since you're making a card under implied rules. This is You Make The Card, not You Make The Game.

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Stop disccusing cards before a judge has judged them. It influences judges and its bad ettique.

No. It's bad etiquette to make cards knowing they don't work.

Even Ko agrees with me, and me and Ko never agree on anything in the history of ever. That should tell you something.

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I said "Baby, metal is what I need; not some bloody ***** to feed"
She looked at me with stupid eyes, then I gave her my advice

"Piss off, I'm drinking! Piss off, or die!
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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
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Part of ymtc IS making the game and changing the rules. All aspects of design are practiced here. This hasnt been a problem in the 5 years I've been making cards.

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You can't change the rules of the game to make ONE CARD function. It's horrible design.

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I said "Baby, metal is what I need; not some bloody ***** to feed"
She looked at me with stupid eyes, then I gave her my advice

"Piss off, I'm drinking! Piss off, or die!
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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
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Its not sloppy design when it makes sense and its easy to grok.

It is sloppy design, since you're making a card under implied rules. This is You Make The Card, not You Make The Game.

While I definitely think that if you're going to be designing a card under different rules, you should be explicit about what you're modifying to get there, I also definitely don't believe it's out of the question. It should be judged as part of the whole submission. But by the judge.

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Stop disccusing cards before a judge has judged them. It influences judges and its bad ettique.

No.

Yes. It's terrible etiquette to remark on cards in a contest before they are judged. Want to remark on cards? Judge your own contest, participate in one of the many single card posting games, or go to the wording clinic, since that's what it's for.

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 Post subject: Re: [Contest] Elegance
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You can't change the rules of the game to make ONE CARD function. It's horrible design.


What are you talking about? Just because I'm only making one card doesn't mean anything. This opens up so much design space its stupid. The only reason I'm making one card only is because that's the criteria.

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