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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:54 pm 
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How can you guys not understand this?
If you vote me and I turn up mafia is VERY different than
If you vote rstnme and he turns mafia.
(regardless of the others alignment)

The statement is saying: If town is wrong, you'd rather keep a more active player in comparison to a less active player.

If you guys can't understand that, I don't know how I could possibly make it ANY easier to explain except by slowly going through every possible combination.

I'll get started now, and if I'm already lynched by the time I can post... oh well that's something that town will have to figure out on their own. That's not a threat, that's me saying I have one vote to go before I can say nothing more.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:12 pm 
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This is obviously not taking into account the mafia nightkill.

1 - I am mafia. You lynch me, you are down one mafia. Where do you go from here? You probably look at shock and squinty. At this point it's a terrible idea to go after rstnme even if you think we are putting on a show. You have no real clue who the other mafia could be. Especially seeing how nobody really stepped up to defend me.

2 - I am town. You lynch me, go 'oh crap' and instantly look at rstnme and probably cereal killer. You have two possible suspects but are down an active player. At this point you probably go after rstnme. If he's town, you sulk. If he's mafia, you found one, but lost an active player in the process.

3 - rstnme is mafia. You lynch rstnme and have removed a mafia player from the game. You see that I have some validity and start looking at cereal killer and elijin (yeah you're going way up on my suspect list). You have at least one lead and an active player. Some might be suspicious of me but even then you still have a lead.

4 - rstnme is town. You go 'oh crap' and turn on me. If I'm town, you're down between two to four townies (depending on night kills). If I'm mafia you get a mafia. and you inly lost a less active player as collateral.

As I said, one of these is better than the other. Look for what's the worst for town, then vote the opposite of that possibility.

You can also see that I hadn't ignored the fact that both of us or neither of us are mafia, that information was just superfluous words. I told you the truth regarding the best course of action even if I did use less words to do it.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:15 pm 
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Oh cool, I made it!
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You can lynch me now Cereal Killer. I'm waiting...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:17 pm 
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If town lynches you and you are mafia, town isn't wrong or worse off. There's nothing more to that statement. But you are trying to assert that whether you are mafia or not, you're better alive for the town which is a completely illogical statement. The only situation in which you being alive is better for town is if you are town. If you are mafia, town is better off lynching you 100% of the time, no ands, ifs, or buts about it.

Given you've decided to go off on some wild illogical tangent instead of taking the opportunity to claim, I'll assume you have nothing to say on the matter.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:20 pm 
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altimis wrote:
How can you guys not understand this?
If you vote me and I turn up mafia is VERY different than
If you vote rstnme and he turns mafia.
(regardless of the others alignment)

The statement is saying: If town is wrong, you'd rather keep a more active player in comparison to a less active player.

If you guys can't understand that, I don't know how I could possibly make it ANY easier to explain except by slowly going through every possible combination.

I'll get started now, and if I'm already lynched by the time I can post... oh well that's something that town will have to figure out on their own. That's not a threat, that's me saying I have one vote to go before I can say nothing more.


You see that right there doesn't really help matters. You seem to be under the impression that you are innately more valuable to the town then any other player simply because you post more and that's just not true. A scant 11 post ago you yourself said that giving out information just makes the mafia's job easier. If that's the case then what does posting activity have to do with anything? If you follow that logic then posting lots is actively detrimental isn't it? So which is it - does posting lots of information, reads and thoughts hurt the town or does posting lots make you more valuable? Either way your standing on some pretty unstable ground.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:22 pm 
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altimis wrote:
First of all, ANYBODY just reading that post now is detrimental to town.
Secondly, DUH. Townies want their opinions heard. Now, I also want to survive (I prefer being on the winning team as opposed to slightly underneath the winning team). So if you want my opinions, I better survive. This was to try and get people to back off. I had every intention of posting my reads had my name come up more than three times. Like I said, none of you can prove that.
Thirdly, why does everyone need information spoon-fed to them? The more that is public, the more that the mafia has to build their defenses with. If I accuse squinty of posting to little, he's gonna start posting more. If I accuse NAME, of doing SOMETHING; they're gonna stop doing that. So NO, I'm not going to make all my reads public unless absolutely necessary.
Fourthly, it feels SO GOOD to be able to quote things again...


This is the post I was talking about. It's obviously more than 11 posts back now. Being unable to edit posts is kinda annoying.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:28 pm 
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Too bad I'm not allowed to say anymore. Dead men tell no tales.
Now, if you will excuse me. I have to cuddle next to GLaDOS.
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"Hello GLaDOS. I better not be that .00000000001%. Now wouldn't be a good time for that."

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:17 am 
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OOC: Is nighttime a set duration no matter what, or is it a deadline for people to submit actions, and as soon as all actions are submitted the GM will end it? Just trying to work out if the game is about to go on a several day lull.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:25 am 
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OOC: Seeing as I can't be modkilled :p
Usually the host will say nighttime is starting you have until this day. Or you have this much time from this post.

Given I technically haven't been lynched yet, I'm assuming Scarlet just hasn't been on yet. I would expect the above to happen.

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An OOC question to toss out. If it doesn't get answered until next "day" because Scarlet calls for Night and we have to shut our yaps, that's OK.

rstnme: I'm really curious about your name, and finally had to ask. If you swap the M for an L, it's the most common letters chosen on Wheel of Fortune (that they now give you for free). But I doubt that's actually it. Mind sharing the story? ;)

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Ooc: Well that's the simple version :)

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:47 am 
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I decide to take one day off, and that's the day you guys do a pre-deadline lynch. How typical.

Also, for further reference:
The day is over when I say it is over. Even if someone reaches the minimum lynch requirement, you can still continue playing as normal until I cut the day off. Same goes for the one that is lynched.
The lynching only happens when I post. There was no problem with continuing the conversation.


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Altimis

After some contemplating the first 'volunteer' for the ancient machine is found.
Altimis is forcefully placed in the opening, after which he should go through a series of tests that concludes with his role in the city.

And indeed, when the door closes you hear the machine do his thing and after a few minutes a paper rolls out Haazda Exonerator, vanilla town.
When the door opens, Altimis is gone and a small amount of fresh blood remains.

"Umm, guys? We sure we don't have alternatives to this thing?"
"Yeah, pretty sure."
"Well damn, better get those goblins out quick then."

As night falls, everyone starts going to their homes. After all...Apparitions stalk the night.


It is now Night 1. N1 ends in 72 hours from this post.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:37 pm 
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The morning starts very early, but also a bit uneventful. At least until you hear someone crying.

"Oh god, MY HOUSE!
Something or someone woke me during the night, and I went out. But when I came back, my house was burning down! I know I saw a goblin sneak away.
We'd better get those buggers before someone dies from something like that."


It is now Day 2. With 11 alive it is 6 to lynch.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:08 pm 
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I think we all know what happens next.

Sigh.

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Wait, does that mean we have a doctor and he saved someone last night? Sweet!

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@Fel - that's how I'm taking that. Go town! In the last game I played, the Dr never saved anyone...

@rtsnme - I don't think that's assured. I mean, we've got a few days to discuss. I will say, based on how D1 ended, you are pretty high on my list...but, it's way too early to start voting,

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@Fel - that's how I'm taking that. Go town! In the last game I played, the Dr never saved anyone...

@rtsnme - I don't think that's assured. I mean, we've got a few days to discuss. I will say, based on how D1 ended, you are pretty high on my list...but, it's way too early to start voting,


And it all started because I asked "why" and posted a picture of a Disney chef :(

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