Filobel wrote:
Lokiare wrote:
Filobel wrote:
There is such a thing as dosage. A lot of things are harmless (or even beneficial) in small quantities or when sufficiently diluted, but are dangerous in large quantity or when highly concentrated.
So saying that something can be dangerous doesn't mean it can't also be safe.
There is no known safe dosage for this. You can look it up on the chemical website and the CDC. Be sure to look it up as a cleaning chemical though because if you look it up as a food additive, it will come up as any dose is safe. What do you mean they have a double standard?
"The chemical website"? WTF is that?
Anyway, the best I could find was this:
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp126-c8.pdfWhich specifically says:
Quote:
The FDA determined that concentrations of ammonia and ammonium compounds normally present in food do not suggest a health risk; ammonia and ammonium ions are recognized to be integral components of normal metabolic processes.
So please provide links because "check the chemical website" is pretty bad sourcing.
The key words are "normally found in foods", and not "added to foods".
http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search is a good place to start.
Further reading:
http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/f?./temp/~IcS6uJ:1 an excerpt:
"DIFFERS FROM OTHER ALKALIS IN ITS VOLATILITY; VAPOR (NH3) EVEN IN LOW CONCN IS EXTREMELY IRRITATING TO SKIN, EYES, & RESP PASSAGES. ... INGESTION OF AMMONIA SOLN PRODUCES EFFECTS SIMILAR TO OTHER CORROSIVE ALKALIS, NOTABLY CORROSIVE ESOPHAGITIS & GASTRITIS."
Its not that its immediately deadly, its that they can't know how much you are going to take in during any given amount of time. You may eat 3 hamburgers and have a canned drink that is full of it and later in the same day have 3-4 more hamburgers and another 2-3 drinks at which point you may very well have side effects. They also don't test for continued exposure over the course of a long time. So there may be huge negative side effects from consuming the stuff once a day for several years. Its also in almost all meats that you get from anywhere. They sanitize all store bought meat in this way even if it isn't pink slime so you are ingesting it all the time at pretty much every meal...