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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:55 am 
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do you know how science works


I used to know. Then I did some reading and found out things like the theory of evolution don't even follow the scientific method (can't be tested can't be proven positive or observed) but are assumed to be scientific by scientists.

now I think half of the scientific stuff I hear or see is not examples of real science because they don't hold up to scrutiny.

wait that was a rhetorical question right? never mind...


If you want to start a real thread discussing evolutionary theory, that's a fine idea, but this thread is probably not long for this world, and it isn't really fair to throw something like this out there uncontested.


Start one and I'll participate. Someone actually thinks the theory of evolution can be proven? wow even pro evolution scientists admit it's impossible to prove. Its a forensic science at best and will never proceed past the theory part. personally since most of the science is based on had been proven flawed scientifically it should revert from theory back to hypothesis...

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:01 am 
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Why stay on topic in the off topic room. Its illogical.


Threads still have topics, and they are not for spam. Topics can drift over time, but debating evolutionary theory is pretty far away from fast food and probably merits its own discussion.


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what youre probably thinking of is ammonium hydroxide, not rat poison. its an antimicrobial agent, which is why its used for cleaning too. it, like most things, is basically safe until you have too much of it. the solutions used for decontamination are more safe than not using decontaminates would be and are generally very dilute solutions. some places, like canada, restrict its usages so not everybody uses it but they use other antimicrobial agents in its place.

the pink slime you are referring to exists in most ground beef products and is simply beef trimmings ground down and fat separated. its an additive that is just beef and is there to reduce cost and to avoid waste, which is the whole purpose of ground beef and why youre ordering a burger and not a steak anyways.

basically you and everything you own and come in contact with is covered in poo anyways so why stress over it

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:04 am 
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basically you and everything you own and come in contact with is covered in poo anyways so why stress over it

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basically you and everything you own and come in contact with is covered in poo anyways so why stress over it

beautiful

Oooh, that reminds me of something from Dirty Jobs with Mike Whoevergivesaflyingf---, anywho, there is a guy who takes feces and makes it into pots for plants and sells it. This man managed to make poo you can just hand to someone and have them thank you for it!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:08 am 
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you can make paper out of elephant poo because they suck at digesting

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Now I want an elephant burger wrapped up in paper made from its last feces before going to the slaughterhouse.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:08 am 
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The nuggets with sweet and sour sauce are delicious. :teach:

I agree with this sentiment.

McDonalds is the closest thing we have around here anyway. So that helps as well with 2 kids.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:00 am 
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vegan scientists do not think that eating meat is a good idea there is probably an agenda there but i think if there was a scientist without an agenda then i would not hear much about them

life expectancy is going up as far as i know and so is consumption of fast food as far as i know so i do not think fast food is too bad


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:30 am 
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Okay folks, let's all play nice and get back to the topic of McDonalds/general fastfood

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GobO_Stormageddon wrote:
Okay folks, let's all play nice and get back to the topic of McDonalds/general fastfood


all the funnest threads I post in end up getting this warning :(

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its Mike Rowe you tool


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that's why they have to soak it in rat poison because it's covered in bacteria and feces. If I could afford it I'd go to a butcher for my meat where it is minimally treated...

meat is murder


it's funny because some people actually believe this.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:48 am 
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door (dooooooooooor) wrote:
meat is murder

what do you think about carnivores in the wild should they be put down

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:05 pm 
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what youre probably thinking of is ammonium hydroxide, not rat poison. its an antimicrobial agent, which is why its used for cleaning too. it, like most things, is basically safe until you have too much of it. the solutions used for decontamination are more safe than not using decontaminates would be and are generally very dilute solutions. some places, like canada, restrict its usages so not everybody uses it but they use other antimicrobial agents in its place.

the pink slime you are referring to exists in most ground beef products and is simply beef trimmings ground down and fat separated. its an additive that is just beef and is there to reduce cost and to avoid waste, which is the whole purpose of ground beef and why youre ordering a burger and not a steak anyways.

basically you and everything you own and come in contact with is covered in poo anyways so why stress over it


Actually you are a little off. Ammonium hydroxide is used as a main ingredient in rat poison.

Its also a byproduct of using ammonia gas chambers to sterilize pink slime meats. You'll notice that it doesn't actually remove the bacteria in the article.

The article is a little old and some fast food companies have stopped or reduced the use of their pink slime products, its still widely used though.

The Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) for ammonium hydroxide classifies the substance as very hazardous when in contact with skin. Ammonium hydroxide may produce tissue damage on mucous membranes. The human digestive system is basically one long mucous membrane from mouth to finish. So you see we have a problem, either the people making the MSDS sheets or the people putting the stuff in our food are lying. No way around it.

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Lokiare wrote:
So you see we have a problem, either the people making the MSDS sheets or the people putting the stuff in our food are lying. No way around it.


There is such a thing as dosage. A lot of things are harmless (or even beneficial) in small quantities or when sufficiently diluted, but are dangerous in large quantity or when highly concentrated.

So saying that something can be dangerous doesn't mean it can't also be safe.


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Filobel wrote:
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So you see we have a problem, either the people making the MSDS sheets or the people putting the stuff in our food are lying. No way around it.


There is such a thing as dosage. A lot of things are harmless (or even beneficial) in small quantities or when sufficiently diluted, but are dangerous in large quantity or when highly concentrated.

So saying that something can be dangerous doesn't mean it can't also be safe.


There is no known safe dosage for this. You can look it up on the chemical website and the CDC. Be sure to look it up as a cleaning chemical though because if you look it up as a food additive, it will come up as any dose is safe. What do you mean they have a double standard? :confused:

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generally one molecule of any substance will not do any damage to your body so there is always a safe dosage.


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meat is murder

what do you think about carnivores in the wild should they be put down


people who kill other people should not be put down is my opinion but i would definitely support an effort to reworking ecosystems so that they aren't based around things killing other things


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