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 Post subject: [BNG-ICD]Thassa's Rebuff
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:36 am 
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Thassa's Rebuff 1U
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Counter target spell unless its controller pays X, where X is your devotion to blue.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:38 am 
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This and that new 2 drop blue guy will help blue devotion out a lot.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:50 am 
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Doubt it. Permission is a bad place to be right now- and none of MUD's threats carry the game well enough to play as a permission heavy tempo deck.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:21 am 
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This is bonkers. This and a specter on the field is a mana leak. I don't know how this can be evaluated as bad in this meta.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:19 am 
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This is bonkers. This and a specter on the field is a mana leak. I don't know how this can be evaluated as bad in this meta.
It's only a Mana Leak at certain times, and only if you have the cards on the field to make it one, and only if you have mana to cast it with that you weren't spending to cast things to make it a Mana Leak, and it's never a Mana Leak when you need Mana Leak the most.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:24 am 
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rstnme wrote:
This is bonkers. This and a specter on the field is a mana leak. I don't know how this can be evaluated as bad in this meta.

This is just Spell Rupture, and we all know how bonkers that was. Doesn't matter what the meta is, a counterspell on which you cannot rely on to do its job when needed will always be fringe a best.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:40 am 
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rstnme wrote:
This is bonkers. This and a specter on the field is a mana leak. I don't know how this can be evaluated as bad in this meta.
It's only a Mana Leak at certain times, and only if you have the cards on the field to make it one, and only if you have mana to cast it with that you weren't spending to cast things to make it a Mana Leak, and it's never a Mana Leak when you need Mana Leak the most.
Oh and it doesn't stop the things you need to counter.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:53 am 
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I should probably just not talk about blue cards until I start playing blue more.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:45 am 
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I actually like this a lot tbh, quite a nice design. Y'all whining about it are just that; whiners.

Thassas Rebuff is possibly my favorite card in the set so far.

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Slaughter Games is hax against control, makes control players want to cry when their boss they were building up towards is completely removed from the game. Poor Elspeth/Aetherling/etc. :cry:

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:13 pm 
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The problem with this in MUD is that it's bad against control (since if your devotion is more than 2 you are winning anyway). And control is where you need the counters. Pretty bad against MBD too I think. You can usually use negate or gainsay if you can only keep up 2 (instead of 3 for dissolve

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:39 pm 
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AzureShade wrote:
AzureShade wrote:
rstnme wrote:
This is bonkers. This and a specter on the field is a mana leak. I don't know how this can be evaluated as bad in this meta.
It's only a Mana Leak at certain times, and only if you have the cards on the field to make it one, and only if you have mana to cast it with that you weren't spending to cast things to make it a Mana Leak, and it's never a Mana Leak when you need Mana Leak the most.
Oh and it doesn't stop the things you need to counter.

Counter spells are bad against cards that can't be countered? huh, didn't see that one coming. I suppose I'll never play counter magic ever again. throw those cards in the trash.

Counter magic is always meta dependent just like every other interactive card in Magic. It'll take time to figure out whether or not this is good and some cards come in and out of favor.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:17 pm 
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Remember when Unified Will was laughed at and then actually turned out good? This feels similar.

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pretty good but will MUD play it?


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