It is currently Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:02 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 111 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
Author Message
PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:01 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Mar 11, 2024
Posts: 35
Preferred Pronoun Set: fae/faer
Vote: KoD


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 7:24 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Aug 05, 2014
Posts: 6083
Location: Here. Always.
Hm. Well, that's pretty gg for us if Lain is adamant it's me.

@Rag:

Previous iterations of JD's Rumbles has had increasing methods by which the antagonist could subvert the linear progression of solving. Your analysis, while helpful yes, has mostly been about a wide-effect ability or singular-effect ability. You even posit to the rest of us about what other methods could exist when, given previous designs, it's hard to anticipate what the mod has designed.

To that end, perhaps Zinger was right about it being you (as opposed to me) and trusting Lain fully. I mean, he is dead after all. There's no telling exactly how results were effected until we get to see the design file.

Vote: Rag

_________________
Spoiler


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:25 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: May 11, 2020
Posts: 403
Location: Dominaria
Identity: Waifu
Preferred Pronoun Set: Royal We
The votes stand 2-1, KoD over Rag. Since I have not traditionally used majority in Dethy's you have the option to end day early by unanimously deciding to do so or you may continue to talk things out until deadline.

_________________
Behind every great man is a waifu pulling his strings.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:13 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Aug 05, 2014
Posts: 6083
Location: Here. Always.
I'm willing to end early as I don't see Lain changing thoughts on me.

_________________
Spoiler


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:25 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: May 09, 2014
Posts: 4575
Hm. Well, that's pretty gg for us if Lain is adamant it's me.

@Rag:

Previous iterations of JD's Rumbles has had increasing methods by which the antagonist could subvert the linear progression of solving. Your analysis, while helpful yes, has mostly been about a wide-effect ability or singular-effect ability. You even posit to the rest of us about what other methods could exist when, given previous designs, it's hard to anticipate what the mod has designed.

To that end, perhaps Zinger was right about it being you (as opposed to me) and trusting Lain fully. I mean, he is dead after all. There's no telling exactly how results were effected until we get to see the design file.

Vote: Rag


there are lots of easy to imagine mechanics that can't be modelled by either "nightwide sabotage once per game" or "single target sabotage nightly", and even the night-wide sabotage isn't ruled out becuase if it say, randomized all results, then it would still be possible. (although would be ruled out with something like a 75% chance by my results)

if the sabotage occurs when the villain is targeted or when the villain's target is targeted my model fails. if the villain has five shots that they can use freely at any time (5 in one night or 2-2-1 or whatever else) then my model fails. There are any number of things i wouldn't be able to imagine that could cause my models to fail.

Its not foolproof, its just looking at a few possible scenarios (default setup, nightwide sabotage, single-target nightly sabotage) and seeing if its possible for you/lain to be scum under them. Within those possible scenarios, its much more likely that you're scum. We can't conclude what the probability of one of those scenarios matching this game is, but we can safely say that the probability is non-zero, and so the method is useful, to some unknown degree

insofar as we can't predict the setup, there's not really any winning strategy, and so there's not much for us to do other than try to predict the setup anyways.

_________________
"That winter, the fireplace was never without a crackling blaze in its belly. The boiled wine we drank was undoubtedly middling and cheap, but she said, with a smile, "I've never had wine this good before." And though I didn't say anything, I felt the same way."


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:11 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: May 11, 2020
Posts: 403
Location: Dominaria
Identity: Waifu
Preferred Pronoun Set: Royal We
After one final debate Mystery Inc decided they just needed to set a needlessly complicated trap that will ultimately fail but in doing so will actually ensnare their culprit anyway. Sure enough, hijinks ensued. No less than four pots were smashed. Seven mirrors were broken. Scoob ended up in a tutu on roller skates. Fred almost drowned in a fish tank. And Velma ended up dangling from her left ankle, holding her skirt in place.

"Get me down from here." She demanded, annoyed.

"Now Velma" Fred said, "You know this always catches the bad guy, so you have to be the bad guy."

"Rreah, rimposter." Scoob added.

"Now let's see who you really are." Fred called as he gave a firm tug on Velma's hair. It didn't budge. "That's on there pretty good."

He rugged at her ears. Pulled at her cheeks. Her face didn't budge and only grew redder with more anger. This was Velma through and through.

"Well then. I guess it was Velma all along." Fred said. "I really thought it was Old Man Mog this time." He shrugged and slapped the cuffs on the still inverted wrists of Velma Dinkley.

KoD has been arrested. He was Velma Dinkley. The culprit has been caught, the game is no longer a foot.

_________________
Behind every great man is a waifu pulling his strings.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:59 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Aug 05, 2014
Posts: 6083
Location: Here. Always.
I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling kids.

And that mutt too.

_________________
Spoiler


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:00 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Dec 03, 2013
Posts: 825
good work team

_________________
quotes


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:42 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: May 09, 2014
Posts: 4575
zoinks

_________________
"That winter, the fireplace was never without a crackling blaze in its belly. The boiled wine we drank was undoubtedly middling and cheap, but she said, with a smile, "I've never had wine this good before." And though I didn't say anything, I felt the same way."


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:25 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Mar 11, 2024
Posts: 35
Preferred Pronoun Set: fae/faer
good game


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 11:17 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Sep 25, 2013
Posts: 5149
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Identity: Spider-Man
Preferred Pronoun Set: Wtf is a "Jabber address"?
gg

_________________
well played zinger


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 111 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group