Is Timh voting Trump?

I don’t think anyone here is. I think everyone is either voting Harris or not voting

No. I’m not voting Trump. I don’t want him to be pres, I’m really worried the country will go loony toons again if he wins. I don’t think he’s as bad as some people do but I don’t think he’s good (his shenanigans when he lost last time were unforgivable imo and enough of a reason on its own that I’d never vote for him), and I think enough people believe he’s Literally Hitler that the country will be unbearable for the next 4 years

I’m probably not voting for pres at all. Not that it matters what I do; CA is 100% going to Harris. I’m more interested in voting for local measures and offices

What he said

Your electoral system sucks big time

How so?

If people don’t feel like their vote matters, it’s probably a sign of a bad electoral system

If they got rid of electoral votes and it was just the popular vote, I’m guessing you guys would vote. Even low population states would vote


I bet a bunch of people in Austria must feel like their electoral system sucks too.

I know many Canadians also felt that way after our last election. Liberals got like 34% of the popular vote and were the ruling party

I don’t agree. We vote for things that matter in our states. The president is, for the most part, not one of those things.

I mean if I supported any party outside Ds and Rs my vote wouldn’t matter even if pres was determined by popular vote. In a way I would want anyways; would just matter in that it takes away votes from the big parties where voting Green or Libertarian hurts Dems and Repubs respectively. It doesn’t bother me that we do electoral college for pres. I think it has its pros and cons. Popular vote in a winner-take-all system in a large voting pool has the same issues of non-impact, if you favor the underdog it probably won’t matter. Like Repubs vote for Governor in CA don’t matter.

Plus everyone pining for the popular vote in the US assumes that would mean Democrats win. I’m not so sure about that. If they changed the voting system, it would change the incentives, and that might change the breakdown.

Finished watching Boy and the Heron. Didn’t really like it. Spirited Away and Grave of the Fireflies are total masterpieces but this one fell flat for me

The paraket sharpening a butcher knife when he’s approaching a tied-up Mahito was hilarious tho. That looked fun to draw/animate

Rewatched Doctor Sleep and it really holds up

It's not a "my vote doesn't matter" it's more of In battleground Georgia, poor people see no reason to vote. That decision could sway election

At Mother's Nest, Linda Solomon, 58, said she and her daughter aren’t voting “ because nothing changes " no matter who sits in the White House. “Why you gonna vote and ain’t nobody doing nothing?”

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As per an interview today, Trump wishes he could roll back the clock to the the economic policies of the late 19th century.

While talking about tariffs, Trump was asked by Rogan, “Did you just float out the idea of getting rid of income taxes and replacing it with tariffs?”

“Well, OK,” Trump said during the interview on “The Joe Rogan Experience.”

Rogan asked, “Were you serious about that?”

“Yeah, sure. Why not?” the former president responded. “Because, we, ready, our country was the richest in the, relatively, in the 1880s and 1890s. A president who was assassinated named McKinley — he was the tariff king. He spoke beautifully of tariffs.”

“And then around in the early 1900s, they switched over stupidly to frankly an income tax. And you know why? Because countries were putting a lot of pressure on America: ‘We don’t want to pay tariffs, please don’t.’ You know they, believe me, they control our politicians,” Trump said.

This is no different that any other place on earth, you vote for national and local representatives, yet over there if your state is "red" and you are "blue" you are discouraged to vote for national representatives.

Theres a missplaced pride in the US for their electoral system, and Constitution, that's damaging the Democratic health of the country with no real upside, just living the lie that your system is perfect and needs no change whatsoever, looks like a case of proud ignorance, maybe fear of change or just total apathy towards Democracy.

In any case, it something to keep an eye to, yet seems that it the ream of what is possible in the US, electoral reform is just behind gun control.

These types of posts always strike me as odd.

Why would we expect a screwdriver to be good at hammering in nails? The US voting system was not built for what you seem to think it should do (and I can think of no objective reason why a hammer would be better). As for what’s been said on NGA, I’m not sure why any of that indicates a failure of the system.

Should everyone vote for President? No matter how bad the candidates are? If so, why?

Your last questions are interesting. Australia decided that yes, everyone should vote and you get fined if you don’t.

If people don’t vote, then more extreme parties can grab more power than they should

But because of the way the US system works, not everyone has to vote which, to Cucho’s point, is likely a symptom of a flawed or imperfect electoral system

Flawed or Imperfect by what metric?

I need to know how it’s being judged before I respond.

The metric of votes not actually mattering which leads to voter apathy

I can’t speak for Cucho but I think this is one of the points he’s making

That doesn’t make sense to me. I don’t think it’s true

That’s always been my thinking. People that vote for extreme parties have high turnout but they represent a very small portion of the population (probably max 2%), so while this type of threat is less menacing to the US because of two party system, in other nations those parties can get seats and vote other enough seats, they could get asked to form a government with a major party

Theoretically it can happen but practically, you’re probably right that it wouldn’t



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Speaking of extremes, my buddy in Phoenix tells me that one of the political affiliations has been vandalizing federal property (post office mailboxes) with messages of hate like « Dems R Scum » and have shot at Harris’ office three times in the last month

Just nuts

Californian votes (in the general election) don’t matter much, because they’ve already got their preferred candidates. This election being a bit of an exception, I can’t think of any instance in my life where the Presidential candidate, of either party, did not win the California primary.. Meaning, Californians choose the choices. So do Texans, btw, for the same reason.

If it ever happened that either Texas or California became a real battleground state, those votes would matter the most.