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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:17 am 
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well they shot me again so you know

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:56 am 
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You're joking, right?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 1:35 am 
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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 1:47 am 
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jfc Amber

I don't know whether to be amazing by or leery of you.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:31 am 
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Hallo everyone, sorry for my absence over ze veekend. I vas avay due to family commitments and could not participate. I hope I didn't miss too much.

I see zat we have had no deaths, und zat is quite interesting. Zinger raises a good point about ze possibility of mafia holding their fire to cast suspicion on Abi, but I agree with KoD; it seems unlikely given ze circumstances so far.

Amber surviving another attack is very intriguing. It suggests zat she is under continuous threat und might have strong protection, or someone is trying very hard to eliminate her.

Rag, I understand your suspicion towards me due to my lack of activity, but I assure you it was due to personal reasons. Now zat I am back, I am ready to contribute fully.

Also, I vould like to know vhy it vas so obvious zat Steve was mafia. Maybe someone could give me a summary of ze key points zat led to zat conclusion?

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:49 am 
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jfc Amber

I don't know whether to be amazing by or leery of you.

honestly im not sure either, but someone clearly wants me dead and that's kind of rude

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 5:51 am 
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Also, I vould like to know vhy it vas so obvious zat Steve was mafia. Maybe someone could give me a summary of ze key points zat led to zat conclusion?


for most people i think the main point was that steve was claiming a protective role when we already had two claimed protective roles (both of which had stronger confirmation). People didn't feel like town would have three protective roles and steve was the weakest link there.

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:28 pm 
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Amber shot twice, eh...

Hey, KoD, buddy... What did you get up to last Night? :P

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:18 pm 
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color=red]Vote: KoD[/color]

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 9:42 pm 
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Meh. Why not.

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:00 pm 
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I'll tell you what I wasn't up to last night. Killing Amber. That's strictly a N1 thing. Otherwise, what're you drinking?

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:46 pm 
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Well that's rude.

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:42 pm 
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Could someone summarize KoD wagon here? Is it just "memes about amber getting shot at"?

Because KoD was on the Steve wagon, and not in a "done deal" position either. The end of D2 was a mess to be sure but it seemed a little early for a bus job. I'd be more worried about the later Steve voters, or those not on Steve. Of which I'm well aware I am one, yes.

I still think Rag's pretty sus myself.

Also, I've been debating dropping this bomb since D1, but if we're meming on d3 I think now is the time.

I am reasonably certain that there is alignment change in this game because my role interacts with it. I don't know what form it takes and would kind of suspect NOT a cult in a 10-player game, unannounced, alongside maf, but either it exists or my role is essentially flavor text so I'm partial to the belief that it exists.

If I have to speculate I'd guess there's some sort of Necromancer from the wording of the overall game rules and that anybody who comes back may come back singing a different tune, but that is pure wild design speculation on my part.

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
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I'm fairly certain, at least for Rag, it's because Amber was shot not just once, but again.

That's about all I can glean from the back to back votes.

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:41 am 
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my perspective when voting KoD:

amber is very probably town (or at least not a killing role) by virtue of being the only one to claim responsibility of the no-kills. The only way amber is scum is if they are also responsible for the no-kills, which is extremely infeasible in a traditional setup but could be the case if we are dealing with say, a cult instead of a mafia.

I'm convinced that caitlin is town primarily due to interactions we had in our private chat .

I'm leaning town on neon because her role is confirmed and because cait is townreading her. It also helps that cait didn't die n1, which scum neon would have incentive to do.

That leaves KoD, Dark, Tevish, and Zinger for vote candidates, and of those i decided to throw my vote on KoD because, as mentioned prior, he benefits from amber's death more than most players do, because amber claimed to put kod as their will target.

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:44 am 
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Given Tevish's claim though, i think i'm going to swing to amber. If we're dealing with a traditional mafia then we're in a pretty good position to recover from a mislynch, having prevented 2 NKs and successfully lynched one scum. On the other hand, while a cult-mafia or something similar is less likely, if we don't address it sooner rather than later its feasible we simply lose the game. I thus think betting on the longer shot here ends up being higher EV for town.

Unvote, Vote: Amber

as amber is claiming knowledge of kills prevented on her, she must be scum in the scenario where we are dealing with a mafia that converts rather than kills, or any similar threat, and i feel addressing such a threat right now is optimal.

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
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Unvote, Vote: Tevish

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:12 am 
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do you want to explain your vote

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
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