That's.... actually a really good point...

Why would Tevish suggest I made a misplay by revealing Steve's target to the mafia when Steve, being mafia, probably told his scumbuddy anyway? Either Tevish didn't think things through, or he was trying to frame me with a **** premise...

Hmm... Sus, Tevish.

Sometimes work is ok. Other times work sucks.

Storm flipping maf is bueno. Those that were not voting Storm at that point would be suspect (in this case that'd exactly be Tevish and Zinger). For his part, Zinger hasn't given me any bad vibes as I've been able to follow his lines of thought the previous day wrt to Rag. Tevish I don't have as much confidence there, but I do know he was down to break open the lain wagon via pursuing Rag.

I don't get why you two opted for Rag over Storm given what Storm claimed, but I suppose if you had similar thoughts to what Rag expressed I suppose that'd make sense even if tangentially.

What I don't get is Rag's vote onto Storm after conversing with me about Storm's claim. The impression Rag gave off was one of "better to wait and see" as opposed to my thought of multiple roles of the same ilk being town must be bs. So the switch onto Storm was interesting to say the least.

Overall I'd say I'm fairly confident ranking people as follows:

Town

Abi - Similar role to Storm and Storm was maf.
Amber - Claimed to have been shot at and protected N1. No death N1.
Zinger -His train of thought is close to mine. Mostly concerning Rag.
Tevish - Lesser version of Zinger. Kind of. No mind melds, but had a focus on Rag which I can respect.
Caitlin - I'm not up to date on Cait's perspectives, mostly from lack of interaction.
Dark- I know nothing about this guy.
Rag - The most jarring thing about Rag is voting Storm when they seem projected otherwise. Rag's own wagon was nowhere close to Storm's wagon.

Scum


I feel like, given how Rag approached the end of yesterday vote-wise, Rag may have jumped onto Storm's wagon for more benefit to herself more than anything.

Zinger is certainly capable of playing his NLP to his advantage. Past experiences definitely showcase this.

That said, I don't think it's the case here that he's scum. At least I don't get the feeling he is. Him outing Storm's target vs not outing it seems more towny to me than not. His role could certainly be scum orientated given the nature of it (steal a person's role and give the thief role to them). I don't remember him, at all, trying to fish for information on people's roles though (which is a point in his favor). Top that off he targeted Storm after Storm's claim which is another point in his favor. That's the way I see it.

@ Caitlin:

You more or less said Zinger is scum to you for quote unquote "trying to control the narrative." I believe the example you gave had to do with wagons for who was being voted. I don't see your point on this, though, wrt to Zinger. Do you have more, or is it mostly he just left a bad impression on you?

Given Storm self-voted at the end, it is entirely likely that he was being bused by his teammate. Those on his wagon are not above suspicion.

Only person who is, imho, above suspicion at this point is Princess Abigail.

I'd argue Amber is above suspicion as well, unless you think she's exactly Storm's partner.

i was hesitating on storm up until they posted their role pm with the alignment removed from it

emphasis mine, mostly because i am curious how you would address this under nlp given that you do specifically do not cover alignment or alignment-indicative parts under nlp
i'm not really sure it matters that much currently but i would be interested in some clarification

i would imagine zinger would allow himself to edit the role pm to disguise his alignment (so change mafia or self thief to town thief and change the win condition) but otherwise wouldn't edit the role, with the possible exception of leaving parts out. He might be comfortable with paraphrasing it in ways that add ambiguity rather than copy+pasting it as well.

Rag is correct, but just to remove any ambiguity, here's what my Theif role did once alignment and win con are removed from it.

that's what i figured, just wanted to clarify

Awake and rise, for it's a brand new day. Everyone is still in attendance. Nobody is detained. Nobody is dead. Let's really get down to business instead of passing notes all phase.

It is now Day 3. With 8 alive, majority is 5. You have 48 hours to discuss, bequeath, and act!

End of Day

Well... thats interesting...

Do you think the mafia holstered their gun to make us think Abi might've been Steve's partner?

It won't work...

Wheeeee

i can confirm that the prison is empty, as expected

tempted to support a dark lynch just because i don't think they've done anything yet

guys you'll never believe what happened

lol

Try me.

Most days I'd believe anything. With a pinch of salt of course.

And I doubt mafia would no kill to paint Abi as Storm's partner. Why even try given what's happened thus far?