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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:11 pm 
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Who besides Caitlin was put under pressure during Day 1? Especially those who were pressured prior to the shift onto lain.


Found my own answer: Rag and Caitlin were the only two players to have more than one vote on them prior to the sudden shift onto lain.

I strongly believe lain's sudden wagon and lynch was a strategic move orchestrated by the scum team to save one of these two from the noose. If I'm right, that means we have a 50/50 shot at nabbing scum by taking one of them out.

And since Caitlin is in jail right now...

Sorry, Rag.

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
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Work day is done even though I barely worked.

Now, first and foremost, we've seen this particular play before with Amber being a kill target. And the last time it happened someone did it explicitly to frame me. So barring some weird plan on Amber's part (which, honestly, would be spicy to say the least), I'm going to be hunting for whoever thinks it'd be funny to frame me via having Amber die.

On that note, given how vocal I am about Amber, as is always the case, I'd bet it's someone relatively quiet. Afterall, this is certainly a great way to start mislynches.


@ Rag: Be honest, was it you?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:09 pm 
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@ Amber:

It wasn't me. Dare I say it'd be quiet the twist if I were watching over you instead eh eh, but seriously, no, I did nothing. At all.

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:17 pm 
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Interestingly enough, I went back to see how the votes fell near end of day.

Final Count

Abi (1): KoD
Rag (2): Tevish, Amber
Cait (2): Lain, Zings
Lain (4): Cait, Abi, Stormie Steve, Rag
Amber (1): Dark

And prior to the final vote count Lain was still ahead of Rag by one vote before Rag "self pres'd" onto Lain.

Couple with that that only two people voted Rag (Tevish and Amber), and Amber was shot at last night, then it makes me think Rag is guilty of trying to off Amber here.

And that works because who gets all the blame? Yours truly ofc.

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I'm "off" today and off tomorrow so I'm just sitting here degening via eating icecream, listening to music, and playing some good ol games.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:24 pm 
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explain yourself, friend


I'd just like to take a moment to point out that despite thinking I tried to kill her, she still calls me friend.

What a pal, am I right?

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:15 pm 
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i definitely think that the lain wagon is worth investigating
their posts didn't have all that much substance and yet that was enough to draw 3 votes (+ rag's selfpres vote), which seems to me that there's probably at least one scum on that wagon

i could also get behind a rag wagon, given the voting patterns yesterday.
i will unvote for now though

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
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Wow, I agree with KoD.

How unusual.

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
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Lain wagon did go like crazy. Rag and Cait on the wagon, though, are both self-serving. Abigail or Steve come off as more oddly positioned.

That said, I wasn't a huge fan of Rag yesterday, and the attempted hit on Amber is, as KoD points out, kind of telling. Especially early on, scum tend to shoot at people who have annoyed them or have their number, and I think Amber had more posts than me of the people on the rag wagon.

I absolutely think that today's lynch NEEDS to be someone from the Lain wagon, as there's not just good odds of one scum but, in my mind, half-decent odds of two. Dangerous play for scum, but if it's Rag/Cait then that coordination may have been seen as necessary to prevent a D1 scum lynch.

In fact

VOTE: RAG

Might as well put my money where my mouth is. If Rag flips scum, Cait is a heavy suspect. If not, I'd be more worried about Steve. I think lynching rag is a good chance of a scum catch and the best info we're going to get.

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
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Tev, your post reads as kinda sus.

I'm not going to read into it too much cuz you're joining my bandwagon, but it's kinda sus. Let me count the ways:

1. 3rd vote on a wagon;
2. you are in favour of chain lynching (Rag to Cait);

Two strikes. Good thing that you need 3 strikes to hit my radar, and also that your analysis on the lain wagon is sound (matches mine)... I guess you can be ignored for now.

...But I'll be watching you. :shifty:

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 1:35 am 
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I too be curious to the intentions of the Fine Lass

Vote: Rag

as to why Ol Steve switched to the Wagon of the Fae known as Lain, Ol Steve felt that any lynch would be a goof lynch. day one be for data, any day further would be needin hard evidence to back up any ol claim

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:28 am 
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STEVE'S LIST OF INFAMY YARR!


Kingo'Dominaria
The Fine Lass Ragnorokio
The Neon Abs
Caitlin'
The Dark Starr
Amb-arrgh
Tevish (Pancake??)
Ol Zing-Arrgh
Ol Steve
Lain-Be Slain

Captain's Log:
KoD be KoD
Rag be acting normal, but she be a master player, so NAI Always
Abs has yet to post a Gif this Game.....sus
Caitlin be locked in the Brig, not much to go off
Darkstar be midroading fer Ol Steve
Ol Steve have no real past experience with Amb-aargh to know their tells
Dependin on if This Tevish be the Pancake Samurai Gemini will change Ol Steve's depiction of them
Zing-Arrgh has the NLP in play.... but Ol Steve rolled a 35 insight, which be impossible since Ol Steve does not have Expertise or even a high wisdom, and nobody cast Fox's Cunning on him... i digress
Steve be Steve. Steve won't be analyzing Steve as Steve be Steve, and that be not right
Lain be Slain, yet again


ol Steve cant vote in this post as Ol Steve did a color show...


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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
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I agree with the premise that when a wagon switches from one player to another near the end of a day and ends up with a town lynch then the original wagon looks worse for it, although its weak evidence because wagons have a tendency to shift rapidly towards deadline in general, and town->town shifts are the most common (by virtue of most players being town). scum-> town wagons should be disproportionately common, which is why its telling at all, but they shouldn't be common enough that it acts as solid evidence, particularly alone.

I missed most of day 1 because i thought there were no new posts, and as a result was pretty much only there for the very start and very end. I don't know what issues tevish had with my day 1 play.

Most players as scum would have cause to kill amber, so amber dying should not paint me in a particularly poor light. If i wanted to kill someone who was attaking me day 1 i would have been more inclined to kill caitlin than amber, since she was actually attacking me unlike amber who seemingly went out of her way to express a lack of suspicion on me. This isn't to say amber's death makes me look better though, because as i said, everyone in the game would have had motivation to kill amber as scum, including myself. amber's death should be NAI for everyone except KoD, in my eyes, for whom it is a slight red mark.

@ Rag: Be honest, was it you?


I know not of what you speak so i assume the answer is no. I am being honest, as per your request. I will probably claim when i wake up (i will sleep after i finish writing this) if i am still the only strong wagon, so that might help elucidate things further.

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
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Ragnarokio wrote:
if we think caitlin being imprisoned is related to the no-hit then that would suggest the mafia tried to kill caitlin which strikes me as a pretty weird target. If neon were scum and caitlin were town neon might think caitlin would put neon in her will and thus give motive to kill caitlin, though it seems out of character for neon specifically to metagame in that fashion. I can't immediately think of another reason why caitlin would be selected as a target.


If kills are assigned and Caitlin was carrying the kill this would also prevent her from executing it

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Interessant point, Rag. But I zink ve should also consider zat everyone who voted for Lain is suspicious, given zat Lain turned out to be town. I am down to vote for any of zem, except Cait since she is currently in prison. Ve need to look closely at those who pushed for Lain's lynch und see if zere's a pattern.


I think it's more suspicious of you to push this wagon when it has probably 0 - 1 scum on it

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 Post subject: Re: All that Remains
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Zinger2099 wrote:
@Storm: Still no.

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@Storm and Abi: Why did you vote lain?


I, too, would like to hear answers to this question. I found the lain wagon particularly weak, and suspect it may have cropped up in order to shift attention away from someone else.

Who besides Caitlin was put under pressure during Day 1? Especially those who were pressured prior to the shift onto lain.


Every wagon yesterday was weak this one was far better than the others

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Who besides Caitlin was put under pressure during Day 1? Especially those who were pressured prior to the shift onto lain.


Found my own answer: Rag and Caitlin were the only two players to have more than one vote on them prior to the sudden shift onto lain.

I strongly believe lain's sudden wagon and lynch was a strategic move orchestrated by the scum team to save one of these two from the noose. If I'm right, that means we have a 50/50 shot at nabbing scum by taking one of them out.

And since Caitlin is in jail right now...

Sorry, Rag.

Vote: Ragnarokio

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Well then your vote should be on me since yanno I started the wagon and led it

But I'm town and this logic is false

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Guess we are just playing L0

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@Ragnarokio, who have you put in your will, for the time being?

I think you should tell us that info now in case you are to die (which seems likely at the moment) so we can ultimately track where your role goes.

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I will now solve the game

I'm town
Cait town
Rag town
Amber town

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