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 Post subject: [MOM] MaRo's Teaser
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:29 pm 
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https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/7 ... ine-teaser
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 Post subject: Re: [MOM] MaRo's Teaser
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:46 pm 
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A lot of these are ripe for prediction, so here are my comments:

• A double-faced token (one that transforms)
This is interesting, because currently the rules don't allow tokens to transform. Will this be a general rules change that also allows token copies of DFC's to transform? Or will it be a special case just for this DFC token?

• A variant of a mechanic returns to a premier set for the first time since it originally appeared
I'm reading this as a returning variant, not a new variant of an old mechanic. First things that come to mind are multikicker and megamorph.

• “an Aura, God or Demigod card”
Something from Theros for sure.

• “This spell can’t be copied.”
No guesses for this, but presumably it's a card where this text prevents some obvious infinite combo. That'll be fun to see.

• “Each player can’t cast more than one non-Phyrexian spell each turn.”
Ichorsworn Canonist?

• “If the opponent protects it, remove a defense counter from it.”
This is definitely battle-related text.

• Creature – Phyrexian Dog Warrior
The only dog people I can think of are the ainok from Tarkir.

• Creature – Aetherborn Vampire
Notably not legendary, so just some generic Aetherborn Vampire, not Yahenni.

• Creature – Dwarf Pilot
Gotta be Kaladesh.

• Creature – Raccoon Warrior
Gotta be Capenna.

• Creature – Goblin Spellshaper
Spellshaper! Haven't seen that type in a long time. I wonder if this card will be from Mercadia.

• Creature – Wolverine Dinosaur
This confused me for a bit, but then I remembered that Ikoria exists and canonically has wolverines, so a wolverine dinosaur hybrid is actually pretty normal by Ikoria standards.

• Legendary Creature – Elder Giant Dog
Probably Kroxa and Kunoros. Theros is the only place with Elder Giants. Theros's only legendary Dog is Kunoros. And Uro + Kunoros would be too many colors.

• Legendary Creature – Ape Dinosaur Turtle
Probably Kogla + Yidaro, Wandering Monster. Classic King Kong and Godzilla team up!

• Legendary Creature – Cyclops Homunculus
I first thought Okaun and Zndrsplt, but some people suggested that Borborygmos + Fblthp fits in better with the "unlikely allies" theme they're going for here. The latter does seem more likely, especially since they're more popular characters.

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 Post subject: Re: [MOM] MaRo's Teaser
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:49 am 
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I dont see why a token couldnt transform? I mean they can already be turned face-down, so they should be able to transform as long as they remain on the battlefield while doing so, right? My guess for this would be something like an Creature that transforms into an Artifact Creature with Toxic to represent phyresis on a massive scale

For the returning mechanic AND creature capable of dealing 11 poison counters ... Blightsteel Colossus covers both and might be a cool reprint.

Phyrexian Weird means Ravnica is represented since I believe Weirds are an Izzet thing exclusively. Phyrexian Bear Rhino could also be a Simic or even just Selesnya thing too, but not sure if they have Bears there. Also explains the Cyclops Homonculus legendary.

The one that has my interest most is Phyrexian Shade, since I thought Shades were incorporeal and thus not exactly susceptible to corporeal afflictions like phyresis.

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 Post subject: Re: [MOM] MaRo's Teaser
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I dont see why a token couldnt transform? I mean they can already be turned face-down, so they should be able to transform as long as they remain on the battlefield while doing so, right? My guess for this would be something like an Creature that transforms into an Artifact Creature with Toxic to represent phyresis on a massive scale

From a design perspective, transforming tokens seems fine. I'm just referring to the current rules.
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701.28a To transform a permanent, turn it over so that its other face is up. Only permanents represented by transforming double-faced cards can transform. (See rule 712, “Double-Faced Cards.”)

Presumably, that rule will be updated to include double-faced tokens as well, which made me wonder if a token copy of a DFC would then be able to transform. Now that I think about it, though, when you copy a DFC in general, you're only copying whatever face is currently up. So I'm guessing token copies still couldn't transform.

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 Post subject: Re: [MOM] MaRo's Teaser
PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:26 pm 
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Oh ... that would be an interesting interaction, like Splinter Twon copying Delver of Secrets (for whatever reason) ...

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 Post subject: Re: [MOM] MaRo's Teaser
PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:21 pm 
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Turns out the transforming tokens are just slower Amass mechanics.

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 Post subject: Re: [MOM] MaRo's Teaser
PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:40 pm 
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AzureShade wrote:
Turns out the transforming tokens are just slower Amass mechanics.

I like to think of it more like Fractals and Clues had a baby.

But also this reminds me I can update some of these clues now that we have previews!

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 Post subject: Re: [MOM] MaRo's Teaser
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Wow, we got a bunch of these already!

• Numerous cards that mechanically care about Phyrexians
numerous cards, indeed

• A double-faced token (one that transforms)
the incubate mechanic

• A card that costs XUUUU
Transcendent Message

• A variant of a mechanic returns to a premier set for the second time since it originally appeared
swampcycling? (not sure, because that card is Jumpstart only)

• A legendary creature returns not seen since Homelands
Grandmother Ravi Sengir (no card yet)

• A creature capable of dealing eleven poison counters
Etali, Primal Conqueror

• Some planes show up in card names that have never done so before
several examples in the battles

• Wrenn returns with a new partner
Wrenn and Realmbreaker

• Two draft archetypes that have a creature type matters component (one of which is Phyrexians - see above)
Phyrexians and Knights

• The tenth _____ & _____ sword
Sword of Once and Future

• “At the beginning of your upkeep, if you haven’t been dealt combat damage since your last turn, you draw a card and you lose 1 life.”
Invasion of Fiora

• Creature – Phyrexian Samurai
Grafted Butcher

• Creature – Phyrexian Shark
Chrome Host Seedshark

• Creature – Raccoon Warrior
Scrappy Bruiser

• Legendary Creature – Ape Dinosaur Turtle
Kogla and Yidaro

• Legendary Creature – Cyclops Homunculus
Borborygmos and Fblthp

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 Post subject: Re: [MOM] MaRo's Teaser
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A few more updates! The autocard links should work soon, once Scryfall updates. (The hover image won't work, but you should be able to click through to Scryfall.)

• “This spell can’t be copied.”
See Double

• “Activate only if you’ve cast two or more spells this turn.”
Xerex Strobe-Knight

• Creature – Phyrexian Bear Rhino
Copper Host Crusher

• Creature – Phyrexian Weird
Captive Weird

• Creature – Goblin Spellshaper
Invasion of Mercadia

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I hate these self-consciously zany creature type combinations so much

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 Post subject: Re: [MOM] MaRo's Teaser
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• A legendary creature returns not seen since Homelands
Invasion of Ulgrotha

• “an Aura, God or Demigod card”
Invasion of Theros

• “where X is the excess damage dealt this way.”
"Nahiri's Warcraft"

• “Each player can’t cast more than one non-Phyrexian spell each turn.”
Phyrexian Censor

• “X twice, where X is the number of lands you control.”
Glistening Dawn

• “Whenever a permanent you control transforms or a permanent enters the battlefield under your control transformed,”
Corruption of Towashi

• Creature – Phyrexian Dog Warrior
"Burnished Dunestomper"

• Creature – Phyrexian Treefolk
"Herbology Instructor

• Creature – Moonfolk Ninja
Invasion of Kamigawa

• Legendary Creature – Elder Giant Dog
Kroxa and Kunoros

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 Post subject: Re: [MOM] MaRo's Teaser
PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:23 am 
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I dont think this was hinted at, but Yargle and Multani just has such a ridiculously beefy body and such a silly flavor text.

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 Post subject: Re: [MOM] MaRo's Teaser
PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:28 am 
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All cards are revealed! Here are all the new and updated clues.

• A variant of a mechanic returns to a premier set for the second time since it originally appeared
landcycling

• “where X is the excess damage dealt this way.”
Nahiri's Warcrafting

• “If the an opponent protects it, remove a defense counter from it.”
Portent Tracker (MaRo had a typo in this one, which made it really hard to predict, because the wording made no sense)

• Creature – Phyrexian Devil
Pyretic Prankster

• Creature – Phyrexian Dog Warrior
Tarkir Duneshaper

• Creature – Phyrexian Shade
Ichor Shade

• Creature – Phyrexian Treefolk
Herbology Instructor

• Creature – Phyrexian Viashino
Thrashing Frontliner

• Creature – Aetherborn Vampire
Consuming Aetherborn

• Creature – Fungus Rabbit
Placid Rottentail

• Creature – Dwarf Pilot
Golden-Scale Aeronaut

• Creature – Wolverine Dinosaur
War-Trained Slasher

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