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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:44 pm 
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Lau.

Lau.

Why.

Why Lau.

Why come in here and make there so much more to read. Why must you do this to me.

And that is also why I'm sad to say, the town!lau headvoice is not being pinged here. I want to like you, but I can't. Ex seems as Ex as ever, so... scum!ex here too? Though the rainbow feel more like town!ex. Maybe it's been too long since I've played with a townie to be certain. Not liking what I read bout Fext lying about his role. So of the three, who deserves my attention to wildly construct a case against?

May the odds be never in your favor.

Case me, I dare you.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:49 pm 
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Laurentus wrote:
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Fext. The Whalerus man reminds me of a more annoying version of you. I like to eliminate things that cause me stress. Hence the earlier promise to not pinkly promise anything. Turns out there's a very specific type of stressor that causes my brain to go haywire and I'm getting better at recognizing it to prevent ya'll from having to deal with the brain that knows nothing.
I kinda like fext :nottoday:
he's hyper active but really smart

Fext is probably my top town, tbh.

Ex, wtf is your Fext case? smh, smh.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:18 am 
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Laurentus - Ok, honestly? There's no way you come in-thread catching up but not realizing KoD is dead lmfao, twas kinda funny. Could be a way to generate fluff/CWAC, but it came across as you legit derping. Also, if your dayvig is real I'm pretty confident we can pretty much clear your slot, because despite it happening SOMETIMES, it's a really strong role for scum to have and I don't think they'd use this early in the phase, but rather at the end to mess a tie and take two townies or something similar since we're likely at MyLo. If you're just bluffing, oh, well, you'll still be a bit high up because of the derp, lmfao.

Dusky- I don't remember much, they contributed a bit but it was mainly poking some members which comes as a bit lazy. I don't remember their playstyle much, but I think they play like this as both alignments, so it's not really memorable? Did some poking that I liked, specially regarding my role WHICH NOONE SEEMED TO CARE, but that was it, it felt a bit shallow, but honestly it was better than most of the players so far. Voted early in Mongoose wagon, and late on Rag's wagon; the former makes sense as scum, but the latter feels extremely unnecessary for scum to do, kinda like the same logic as the one I mentioned about Dark during D2. Overall, no strong feelings towards this slot.

Skystone - Made the killing vote on Goose, completely pointless vote on Rag. Looking back, the vote on Goose doesn't look as bad since both wagons were town, so scum didn't really have to step forward unless they had a reason to go after Goose first. Overall fine slot but kinda lacking

Silver - Beefed up with Fext a bit, said something about not making promises and killing Lau, vanished. Did they vote during any of the phases?

Hello World - Who? Literally nothing impactful came out of them so far, completely ambiguous and if anything slightly scummy. I need/want more content. Could be a problematic slot if it made to LyLo regardless of alignment.

Fext - Overall negative feelings about this slot. Seems to be contributing somewhat, but so far it's been quite an amount of bluffing and kinda throwing shade randomly at people. Has been somewhat assuming the role of townleading, but pushed towards two wagons that ended up being major power roles. One thing they have going for them is that the bluff that kinda fearmongered some players into not breaking their promise. The issue is, if Fext is scum, and one of the people affected by the fake role is also scum, then they could break promises behind the scenes and we wouldn't be aware of it (I think? are broken promises made public? No, right?). I also don't like how you made a pretty strong promise (although not necessarily binding as Skystone had just explained


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Skystone likely doesn't start early in the game throwing shade at silver as scum, in retrospect I should've pushed Silver to see his (Sky's) reaction.
Silver does not publicly get mad at Fext if they're partners.

Actually, I have a lot of thoughts about your wall.

How does the result of Fext's pushes matter in the least, beyond either scum or town dying? Even if we assume that mafia have a role blocker, that doesn't matter on D1 when we lynched the cop. I feel like, if anything, the nature of his D2, where he spent all of D1 white-knighting the D2 lynch only to join the wagon without adequately prodding in different directions, is the better scum case.

I don't like your Dusky read, either. As scum, it's typically harder to vote early, especially with compelling reasons, and far easier to just join a wagon you know is going to be Town. Also worth noting that Dusky's D1 vote was the first on Goose, and considering how we can't change votes here, it's not unreasonable to think they might have took a gamble by placing a vote on a wagon they thought might not taking off, only for it to actually do so and watch on in horror as it did. That psychology would actually kinda explain the D2 action of not wanting to risk an early vote again. I... have my own reasons for liking this slot, but your reasons are bad.

Your vote analysis is just baffling, consistently. Like, if scum knows that both wagons are not scum, but still need to be around and active, especially in this environment that is so hostile to lurkers, they literally have nothing to lose by placing their vote on any of the wagons. You say the slot is completely lacking outside of that but then still have them as your 3rd highest town. Why am I holstering my shot, again?

Apart from the vote, there is functionally nothing different fypov about Hello World and Sky, so again, just yuck.

And then you shade the one slot that has actually dared to do much as your top scum. Despite previously saying you liked them. Just blindly shading the FPS doesn't do anything for me, either. Show me why the motive behind the fake claim is scummy, then we have something to talk about.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:19 am 
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EBWOP: Even if we assume that mafia have a role *cop*, not blocker.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:31 am 
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Oh, and another thing, what is your "Silver and Sky not W/W" read? Scum don't get mad at their partners in thread? You for real right now? It's called theater, and you saw my scum team do it a lot in Portal Mafia.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:37 am 
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To Sky, Hello World and Darkstar:

C'mon, do something.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 1:46 am 
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Do I sense a bit of antagonism here? Fascinating.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 1:55 am 
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Laurentus' overreaction to KoD's activity comment is, shall we say, peculiar. Is Laur especially prone to OMGUS?

I also find it hard to buy that they didn't bother to check Day 2's outcome.


@Fext: Would you care to make a legitimate role claim?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 1:55 am 
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Laurentus wrote:
To Sky, Hello World and Darkstar:

C'mon, do something.

Two of those three people are just waking up. One also lurks chronically.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 1:56 am 
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not particularly


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My limited experience with Ex suggests that he does a lot of inconsequential hedging and busywork when he is scum/3p as compared to being genuinely helpful as town, but in his current form he is somewhere between those two archetypes. Speaking of:
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Skystone likely doesn't start early in the game throwing shade at silver as scum, in retrospect I should've pushed Silver to see his (Sky's) reaction.

You are clearly unfamiliar with my meta.

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not particularly

Well, that's helpful. Your chief contribution so far is lying. Very pro-town.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 2:14 am 
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Skystone wrote:
Laurentus' overreaction to KoD's activity comment is, shall we say, peculiar. Is Laur especially prone to OMGUS?

I also find it hard to buy that they didn't bother to check Day 2's outcome.


@Fext: Would you care to make a legitimate role claim?

You mischaracterise my reaction. I'm saying that there are legit things to be sus about me for, and that ain't one of 'em.


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thanks and yes I agree


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 2:25 am 
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Also, if you don't buy the derp, then why are you even bothering to read my reaction to KoD's inactivity comment? If I'm lying about the derp then obviously my reaction isn't genuine.


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KoD... his role name sounds potentially game making/breaking, meaning he was probably going to blow everone up soon.


I don't like the Fext's fake claim. At all. But... by itself it puts him really high on the scum list, however, the fact he actually admitted it puts him lower again... After all, he was seen as near-confirmed and could have just rolled with it till the end. Why admit that now? Without giving us anything useful other than saying it was a lie? It confuses me. Maybe he just likes causing chaos? He's somewhere in the middle for me right now.


Skystone likes throwing shade... throwing shade without getting serious so he can always claim it was just a joke... while hoping other people will pick it up and act on it. Isn't that so, Sky? :p I have my eyes on you. ;)


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 2:37 am 
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Man, y'all are boring. Fake claims are hilarious.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 2:54 am 
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Laurentus wrote:
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You mischaracterise my reaction. I'm saying that there are legit things to be sus about me for, and that ain't one of 'em.

As far as I can find (and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), he encouraged you to post more often and noted that you posted differently on Wintreath. Neither of these are compelling reasons to FoS him.

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Also, if you don't buy the derp, then why are you even bothering to read my reaction to KoD's inactivity comment? If I'm lying about the derp then obviously my reaction isn't genuine.

Do you find it unusual to examine others' strange or suspect play? This may come as a surprise, but much of scum behavior is not genuine.

Ergo, if I don't buy the derp, it behooves me (and town) to pursue your motivation.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 3:04 am 
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Where did he say I posted differently on Wintreath? He said that he was worried I could be lurking scum Lau, which, just purely from my reputation, he should know is NAI. On the other hand, there are actions I have taken here which would fit right into my scum meta (and which would fit right into his understanding of my reputation as well).


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 3:07 am 
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Also, yeah, see, here's the problem: you called my reaction specifically out as an over-reaction, and then proceeded to ask if I'm prone to OMGUS, which implicitly shows that you think I have something to over-react to and therefore buy my derp. So shading the derp itself in the next sentence is nonsensical. Decide which narrative you wanna pull here.


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Laur, for his part, just strikes me as off given how he appeared to me over in Wintreath and how he's been described by various others. He's very much a vocal person. He will make bold, if questionable, moves (though how often I can't say). The only thing I can say, to his benefit, is that maybe with this being an offsite game for him it may have him off his footing. That, or maybe I'm witnessing a scum Laur that chooses to play it safe by lurking in the shadows. Can go either way at this point as far as I am concerned.

You even quoted the post in question!


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