Lies. In fact, I promise not to kill Amber N1 if I end up scum.

We both know that can be circumvented.

PPM taught us the value of promises.

Savages.

^

I think it is incredibly hilarious that you guys can't find enough players for a small 8-player game especially after that time where I was mafia with Skystone and he tried to argue the point that it was better for the meta to bully meta-anarchists (players who play against the grain) into either conforming to a more socially accepted playstyle or to leave the community. I wonder if he still stands by that point, as he sits here waiting for nobody to play games with him?

#stillasavage

Speaking of anarchy... I'll /in on the single condition that at least 3 of you pinky promise to policy lynch Skystone Day 1.

in maybe

there might be some irony in trying to coerce players into making out of game promises to policy lynch someone for not supporting bullying meta-anarchists

I fixed your post.

Skystone supported bullying, not the other way around.

The irony is that he thought his stance was ultimately better for the meta, and now sits here unable to find enough players to play with.

that makes more sense

my mistake

I made no such argument. At all. You were the one, in fact, who threatened to out your own team because we didn't endorse the strategy you wanted. Your alleged "bullying" was me declining to be coerced, no more.

In all honesty, you were the bully.

i'll promise to vote for skystone in my first post and leave it there for 24 hours if that'll get you to play

i won't promise more than that though, and if tevish tells me not to honor the promise than i won't.

I could give you until the last 24, monster. If you can't get the job done by then the extra time won't matter. I could also be lying about this, because why not?

You have a faulty memory. Or you're being intentionally disingenuous. I don't care which.

Fortunately, for you, I deleted the discord chat so I can't dig up receipts. But make no mistake, my memory is not faulty, and I don't need receipts to remember your stance. You argued in favour of policy-lynching players who didn't "get with the program" until such time as they either change their playstyle to suit your glorious meta's needs or be discouraged from returning to play on future games. You said that doing so would be for the good of the meta. That unhealthy players should be learned to change or leave. You argued these things, and I found it so disgusting that I left the mafia chat even though the game wasn't even over.

You think I was bullying you? I was making impassioned arguments over why I thought my strategy was the best one, but though we disagreed on what to do, I would never try to force you to take my strategy "for the good of the meta", as you would.

You also advocated for bussing a fellow mafiate against their will, which is also bullying. Bussing a mafia buddy for town pants is often a great tactic, but only if the person you're bussing is on board with setting themselves up for the fall. Otherwise that's not bussing for town pants as a strategy, that's just infighting.

You were such a bully that I haven't felt like playing games here since. So don't play your stupid gaslighting blame-reversal cards on me.

if we're going to have a civil war i want to be on monster's team

And just so we're extra clear on this one point... I only threated to out the entire mafia team IF AND ONLY IF you proceeded with your plan to bus me against my will. That's not fighting for my strategy to be used with underhanded tactics, that's fighting for my survival against a traitor who wanted to turn on one of his own teammates.

That's 2 of 3.



You're a gem.

I actually read the mafia discord. You are lucky other's can't.
Summary: Skystone disagreed with your strategy, you threatened to out the mafia, he refused to fold, you called him a jerk. Later you tried to convince Aaarrrgh, he disagreed with you, you called him something unpleasant as well and rage quit.


#Tantrumsarentsavage

KoD outed his scum-buddies once because they NK'd him

You're a liar. I don't know why you're lying, but you are. Aaarrgh was there. Get him in here, see what he says.

I left because Sky was a bully. I did not "rage quit".

I was angry because he advocated pressuring players to play by his standards or to find other places to play. He was a jerk, and I probably did call him so. I'd do so again.

I threatened to out the mafia if and only if they bussed me without my blessing. My "strategy" was not what I was arguing in favor of. I was arguing for my continued survival.

Do you always rush to Skystone's aid like this? Isn't that what got you in trouble in the game that JayDreven just ran on here? I mean, I didn't play, but I did skim out of curiosity, and it also seemed like you were fighting Sky's battles for him. Like, is Dusky just Sky's alt account, or what? I wouldn't put it past him.

dusky is certainly not skystone's alt but they do get along. as i understand it they're both part of the same soft clique of people who shared a community over a decade ago. Included are numbers and i think KoD. Its not really that insular though and its entirely possible i'm just reading them all wrong to begin with. They also don't back each other unconditionally in games, although they might be more likely to form alliances or view each other charitably, especially in untraditional setups. Thats also true of a lot of players here though. People like making allies and enemies and then backstabbing their allies.

I don't know their history so I'll take your word for it. I'm just calling it like I see it. Dusky coming to Sky's defense and calling me a liar is B.S.. I remember what Sky said and why I was mad and why I left. I used to play on much more savage places than this and never have I bailed on a mafia chat before. Why? Because Sky crossed a line that in games you shouldn't cross. Dusky wants to pretend I made it all up because I'm butthurt or some ****? Don't make me laugh. You can't make up outrage.