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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:57 pm 
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That only work if neither Rubik nor Darkstar nor you are mafia...


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:22 pm 
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That only work if neither Rubik nor Darkstar nor you are mafia...

You're not wrong, but also, with each hour that passes, your hope that you're not confirmed scum becomes less and less likely.

HEY MAFIA, my vote is still on Dusky. I'm going to go to sleep now. I'll probably check back in like, oh, I dunno, 12 hours? That should give you loooooooads of time to vote Dusky if in fact I am wrong and she's Town.

You know, just in case they weren't voting because they were afraid I'd see the mounting votes and unvote before they can hammer. I want to give them the space to breathe, you know?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:55 pm 
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Skystone and Dusky

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:25 am 
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Skystone and Dusky

What about us?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:13 am 
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I don't like the sudden turn on KoD. You can't just "all but confirm" him, then toss him away as scum when he thinks for himself.

@CL: Why are you sussing KoD now?

@Dusky: Who are your suspects? Why do you believe that Zinger is unlikely?

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I've more or less proven that dusky and sky have to be scum, cuz if they weren't, the mafia would pile on top of my vote and win. The fact that those three still refute this irrefutable point proves they are the scum team.

In addition to wanting to reprise that Zinger is an equally 'proven' candidate (he can't cause a bus if he's scum himself), I really can't otherwise wrap my head around his willingness to risk town's very existence for what we might generously call a pretty iffy gambit. Either he's so caught up in his case that he's thrown reality away, or else he's trying to get us to act before we have time to organize around the real facts.

For instance, why would scum bus here – risking a loss to an unknown role – when instead, via their own inaction, they can simply help town lynch itself? By Zinger's own logic, scum failing to bus such a candidate also gets that candidate killed in the end.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:07 am 
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I prepared a big speech about you guys not listening to me and lynching the wrong guy.
But then Tevish also flipped town...

My first instinct would be to vote Zinger. Maybe the Zinger/KoD team isn't as delusional as I thought.
I don't see why they should kill Tevish though..

CL could be a good candidate after Argh's flip.

I didn't see it before but after the latest flips now I could also imagine a Dusky/Sky team.

Anyone having a good idea what Rubik's role could be?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:30 am 
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I prepared a big speech about you guys not listening to me and lynching the wrong guy.

This is funny, considering that I've been onto Sky and Dusky since Day **** 2, and here we are all the way in Day 4 and in Lylo because nobody has been listening to me.

And yet, Dark wants to vote me. Hah.

I should be the last person on any sane town's lynch list. Every day has been an exercise in me screaming at y'all not to lynch who you ended up lynching. So until you want to follow my lead and lynch one of my targets and THAT person flips town, go look somewhere else.

Sure, I wanted to lynch Tevish Day 1, but besides the fact that I thought Tevish might be scum with sky, I haven't seriously pushed him since then.

But whatever.

Dusky, Dark, and Sky scum team? I could see it.

Look, my vote has been locked on Dusky for many hours now. I'm not going to move it UNLESS a wagon on Sky starts up. The longer it stays there without drawing even a SINGLE other vote from anyone, the harder it will be for you crazy people to deny that Dusky can be anything but Mafia.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:32 am 
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I didn't see it before but after the latest flips now I could also imagine a Dusky/Sky team.

Anyone who says this is blind.

Sky came out and TAUNTED KoD with the Amber kill at the beginning of Day 2.

Dusky saved Sky from the noose TWICE! ON DAY 2 AND DAY 3.

It's just bonkers that y'all don't see it.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:02 am 
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The fact that I am still alive makes me think there's maybe just two mafia after all.

Zinger, your case on Skystone was (by our own words) built on the the fact you thought Tevish was mafia and came out defending Skystone when you voed him. That case is gone now. The other part of your case (speaker in the snippet plotting against KoD) doesn't work either if you now suspect KoD. Yet you hold on to the 'case' just because you already convinced yourself. That is why I don't listen to you. You tunnel more than anyone. I know of course 100% I am town, and your cause against me only works if Skystone is mafia. If anything, you make me more convinced he is town.

Skystone: I don't think Zinger is scum because Rag was an unlock cop and unlocked Zinger (she said so herself) - I think she would have informed us of a mafia read if there had been one. Also, some things he said about his role I don't think would work with his NLP if they weren't true. I think he behaves pretty much like he did against KoD in Kart mafia, were both were town. I think the scum team is Rubik+CL. Third would be Dark or maybe KoD.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:10 am 
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As I won't have much internet in the next few days, I'll just claim now.

I'm a tracker. Unfortunately for me, I only have one result and the person who could confirm it is dead: Tevish tried to taget me day 3. I found this odd, as he had voted for me the day prior and I never volunteered. So I thought he might be lying about what his role does, and voted him until KoD confirmed Tevish does actually start conversations. KoD, were you still talking to Tevish day 3, and did he by any chance mention his failed attempt to talk to me?
I am also forever locked. There has only ever been one person in this game who can unlock me, and it's not going to happen.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:17 am 
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@CL: Why are you sussing KoD now?


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I'm not so much sussing him as I'm slam dunking a guilty verdict in his face. I can't believe he didn't bus you he would have got away with it too.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:46 pm 
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@Zinger:

Skystone didn't taunt me. If anything, I started it by bringing up the unfulfilled prophecy.

@CL:

Hey, I drew a knife on Sky and tried stabbing him to see him flip. That was an hour before deadline apparently, and you saw how the votes fell from there.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:53 pm 
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@,Dusky:

My chat with Tevish ended at some point that I never bothered to track. Without having the chat itself to look at am incapable of even giving you an idea other than it maybe ended the next day (I vaguely remember talking about small things at certain points).



@Skystone:

I mentioned your names because I was going to say I'm throwing my lot in with you. Zinger is too hung up on himself for me to trust a LyLo vote at his suggestion. At hmthe same time, just like yesterday, I do not feel like pursuing Zinger here benefits us if he truly is town.

I still think we'll find scum inside of CL, Dark, and Dusky. Which is a matter of comfidence.

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Zinger is too hung up on himself for me to trust a LyLo vote at his suggestion.

You could've tried trusting me BEFORE we got to LyLo, but nooooooOOooooOooo. :roll:

@MAFIA, if Dusky is not on your team, you've basically won, cuz I'm not moving my vote. C'mon! Stop dragging this out and hammer her already. Show all these town losers that they were right and I was wrong!

Oh, wait, that's right... You can't because I'm right and Dusky is scum. Whoopsies.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:32 pm 
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Zinger, if mafia isn't sure whether you are still vote blocked, it would be pretty dumb of them to pile their votes on me. You might get your wish after a vote count.


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I'm going to refer you back to Skystone's response to you.

Faerie served as a valid lynch given her recent gameplay despite her assertion of her meta (that we couldn't verify). Your arguments about Skystone being scum are vastly unverified much like what I start with. The big exception is that you're continually pushing your flawed case despite the connection you drew to Tevish and Tevish flipping town.

What's your grand reasoning for Skystone being scum? That he disagreed with you? Rubbed you the wrong way? Certainly was nothing wrt to Tevish, that's for sure. Perhaps him volunteering to Tevish? But then I did the same; course, you have reason to believe I'm town. That is, until you dislike that I'm disagreeing with you.

Had you a valid point to stand on, you maaaaybe could have swayed me into lynching Skystone yesterday when I pulled that knife out. Ultimately, Skystone did better at convincing me of his townieness that I was no longer willing to swing that knife.

But hey, never mind that there are three total scum we can pursue. Never mind that we could hit a likely suspect in a reasonable compromise.

You *may* be right about Dusky. You may be wrong too. Just like how I was wrong about Arrgh. Just like how you were wrong about Tevish.

If you don't want to deal, then we won't. I'll deal with Skystone and, to a lesser extent, Dusky.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:42 pm 
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What about your other targets?

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Faerie was not a valid lynch. She never was. And even if my argument for why she should have been spared over Sky failed to convince you, that doesn't mean that my argument was invalid. Your inability to see my logic didn't mean my logic was wrong. I was convinced Faerie was town BEFORE she flipped, and I desperately tried to persuade all of you to see the error of your ways before it was too late. The fact that I could see this and was RIGHT proves that there was something there to be seen and you were all just too DENSE or too MAFIA-ALIGNED to agree with me.

If you'd listened to me then, we wouldn't' be in this **** of a LyLo state. Even if I were wrong about Sky and Sky flipped Town, it would have put us in a much better place of narrowing the POE to actually find scum than we are now with Faerie being dead and Sky still standing.

If y'all are town, town deserves to lose. If I'm wrong about Skystone and Dusky, and they aren't mafia, then honestly I'd rather side with scum and lose the game at this point.

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Zinger, if mafia isn't sure whether you are still vote blocked, it would be pretty dumb of them to pile their votes on me. You might get your wish after a vote count.

When has my vote ever been blocked in this game? To my knowledge, my vote on Sky the one time was removed previously due to the tie factor removing a vote at EOD.

@JD, votecount, please.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:20 pm 
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Well you didn't seem to have a counting vote last day either.


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