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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:32 pm 
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The error in your argument, Zinger: Town defends town against **** arguments.

@KoD: I voted exactly like I said I would vote yesterday: Darkstar, Aaarrrgh, Tevish in that order. Darkstar is not on my supsect list anymore.

However, given that you actually had a chat with Tevish, I find him less likely to be scum now, so would definitely prefer Aaarrrgh...


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:33 pm 
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... what? That wasn't even a bad word, as far as I know. :confused:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:33 pm 
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Tevish is not scum here. My time in the chat with him was proof enough of that for me. Plus his opening play with Zinger is a strong indication to his town alignment.

Why is that the first time we hear about your chat?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:34 pm 
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Tevish is almost certainly scum. The only thing that makes me doubt this is Sky's willingness to vote Tevish. But could be bussing.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:36 pm 
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@Zinger:
But your conclusion only makes sense if the scumteam is exactly sky/dusky/tevish.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:39 pm 
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Zinger2099 wrote:

Dusky came to Sky's aid. I presented a very very compelling list of reasons why Faerie was very unlikely to be on the scum team. Dusky doubled down on that and said it was even more of a good reason to vote her because of some **** meta argument based off a single game. Dusky was obviously trying to save Skystone. In the face of compelling evidence, Dusky still chose to save Sky. Dusky and Sky are scum mates.

I found especially compelling that you admitted to skimming over her posts. Not knowing what you're talking about is, of course, the foundation of any good argument.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:40 pm 
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Zinger, your chain of events that led you to Skystone is distinctly reliant upon your correctness wrt to Tevish's alignment.

Speaking from a place of knowledge, you are simply wrong about Tevish mechanically. While I cannot attest to Tevish's alignment with 100% confidence, I am still more confident in him being town aligned than I am him being scum. To me, it seems like you knee-jerked hard into Tevish, and from there slammed into someone else on a perception you perceived which *may* be flawed in terms of alignment.

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At this particular point, I am more confident in the outcome of Skystone and Zinger being town aligned as opposed to either one being mafia (though, again, I could be wrong).

Rather than focusing on profiling exactly the aggressor from Zinger's chats, I'd rather focus on firing into the unknown space where this isn't a lot of noise. To that end, I'm calling for a CFD onto CL.

A lot of the interactions that are going on are devoid of CL's presence in so much as being a focus in the going-ons of this game thus far. Strictly speaking, there is a lot of movements from other players as well as vocal perspectives regarding what is going on. This is less so from CL and, to a lesser extent, Arrgh as far as I have observed.

There should be one scum inside the more active players. That is what my paranoia tells me; however, keeping in line with my previous perspective, it'll be easier to hit those scum that are lurking at the edges as opposed to axing through the content generators. The active scum will get themselves found out through PoE as the game gets closer. What we ***shouldn't*** do is ignore the lurking scum any longer.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:42 pm 
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I wasn't wrong. You helped lynch her. Who's argument was good, again?

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DaRkStAr wrote:
Tevish is not scum here. My time in the chat with him was proof enough of that for me. Plus his opening play with Zinger is a strong indication to his town alignment.

Why is that the first time we hear about your chat?


Whoever liked that post is going to feel bad.

It's because I spent the last week+days watching my father decline as I visited every day. I became sad, tired, and still I had responsibilities to work (because money is good) while also having responsibilities to this game. I posted mostly in a cursory fashion because it's what I managed.

And even on this day, the day of his funeral, I come here before you ready to play.

While my information about Tevish's ability may be delayed in reveal, does it surprise you that Tevish was speaking accurately about his claim to making a chat with a player? Because I find that odd given that you made a case against Tevish, but then have my assertion that he can't be scum (which isn't 100% btw).

Frankly, I find your reaction here strange.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:47 pm 
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KoD, are you unwilling to switch back to Aaarrrgh?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:48 pm 
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Not sure if you are talking to me, but my question was mostly targeted at tevish.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:50 pm 
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I was talking to you, Dark. The way you responded made it seem like you were questioning me over the existence of the chat after I had unveiled its existence.


@Dusky:

I'm more interested in whether or not you'd be interested in CL. Clearly you guys can push Tevish without me. But why the interest in Arrgh over Tevish if it keeps Skystone alive?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:53 pm 
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Because if Tevish actually has a chat going with you, I find it less likely he's scum.

As for CL... I have no read on him. He did his usual delightfully random votes / comments. Aaarrrgh is more suspicious to me.


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We have to question everything in mafia. But that wasn't my intention.

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I hesitate to switch wagons without any time for reflection, especially seeing as CL hadn't really pinged me.


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At the end of the day you guys don't have to do anything. You've secured your life, Skystone. Even if you guys don't think Tevish is that suspicious, you still find him somewhat suspicious. So there you go.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:56 pm 
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I could maybe see myself voting argh. But CL is soo risky I have a bad feeling here.
Also i cant change votes fast if we do a last minute switch. Im on my phone.

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Vote: Aaarrrgh


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Unvote, Vote: Arrgh

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Vote: Tevish

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