We wait for him to craft a giant post that will crush the life out of sky.

Now we lynch Sky.

KoD has shown up and made his required amount of posts. He's obviously distracted/busy, so let's give him a break and take care of business ourselves.

KoD wants to lynch Dusky, though. Won't you even give him that?

Sure will. Tomorrow. After you've flipped.

Ok so Skystone is a major focus for today.

I may be busy, but I will do my part like I said I will. It's not like I have a funeral to be to or anything.

Let's make some magic.

@Zinger: Can you confirm that you were targeted by Rag's ability, and on which day?

@KoD: My condolences.

I can confirm that during Night 1 I was unlocked when I for all intents and purposes should have been locked (I was locked during Day 1, and I couldn't unlock myself in that time). I can't confirm it was Rag that unlocked me, but Rag claimed to have been the one to do it and nobody contradicted her and I have no reason to doubt it.

@KoD: Dude, take whatever time you need. You're fine. Sorry about the funeral.

Wow, it has been a while. Page 6 was my last, real interaction. This was around the time Faerie, I believe, was getting some votes. I picked on Dusky. Skystone and Faerie commented on each other (Faerie being town due to the lynch that occurred that I helped with as I recall).

EoD 1 VC


There was talk about lynching a lurker, to which Skystone was certainly willing; however, my statement that got Rag to vote Skystone eventually led to Faerie also voting Skystone. Incidentally both Rag and Faerie are dead as town (one by lynch and the other by NK). This, incidentally, does not bode well to my paranoia assuming Skystone is being setup much like the Amber kill from N1 (hey, I'm remembering -- Sorry Amber).

Now as I recall it, D2 saw Faerie lynched, but, based on various posts I happened to have looked at, it seemed like there was certainly a push for Skystone. Zinger made a plea for me to join him in lynching Skystone as I recall. Let's see where I come out at after reviewing all those posts (probably not in too great detail, but hey I surprise myself sometimes by typing a lot).





I see Skystone's official calling out of Faerie for stated reasons. The mention about Darkstar is certainly noteworthy. I feel like that was a missed opportunity by scum to secure a rather easy lynch for any reason. That, or scum already committed to people they felt would get lynched, and they didn't anticipate a tie like that preferring to stick to their voted target as opposed to making an excuse to unvote and vote thereby drawing attention.

Honestly given that the first NK was on Amber, I'm inclined to believe that the other NK (Rag I believe) is a definite signal that Skystone is town. Whether or not the issue between Zinger and Skystone is that of town v town is certainly something I have yet to resolve; however, given Zinger's posturing, I'd be inclined to think he is town as well. I will grant that I have yet to get into the meat of D2 as of typing this, but I'm making my progress.

Enjoy my further impressions as I walk down this road.

You know, I actually made it quite a few days surprisingly with my sporadic posting. That makes me happy. Turns out, I was still sus of Dusky and I threw Darkstar in there. And Arrgh over there being Arrgh. I wonder how that's going.

Yeah, Dusky totally betrayed me that one game. Also, my impression of Dusky is probably spot on, but she definitely didn't make the kill on Amber. Dusky may be brutal, but she's not heartless. Someone here was certainly ok with Amber being killed while someone else pulled the trigger. I will find you in time.

Yeah, I still agree that Tevish is more than likely town for D1, but things can change.

I'm tending towards town!Zinger. Also, huh, why, specifically, "Sky vs Faerie"? Skystone's point against Faerie was fair, and Faerie's argument about Skystone being a lurker was factually incorrect despite whatever impression Faerie may have convinced herself of (and in spite of her being town). This honestly feels like another TMI from you, Arrgh. That's strike two.

Skystone


I resemble this.

And resent.

Dusky MVP.

Uggggghhhhhhh. That's twice Dark has been focused on a lurker (specifically Rubik). The major focus of the thread isn't even on policy lynching. And the vibe is all wrong. If you were that convinced about a lurker being scum, then you should be making a hard push to push people in that direction instead of allowing the arguments of the day to continue to steal the light of the day. It's literally hiding in plain sight.

I hate to say it, but I think I may be onto something with this whole Dusky, Darkstar, and third lurker scum team (Protip: It's Arrgh). Yikes.

So CL sides with Sky. Zinger is hard against Skystone. Faerie will obv side with Zinger against Skystone.

Zinger


Yeeeeeeeeeeeep.

Darkstar


Oooo, that's an interesting hot take. I can't wait to see why Zinger.


Interesting that Dark immediately gets involved more, in terms of questioning, with Rag's claim as opposed to anything else that has occurred. Other than mentioning Zinger as a potential vote for him, he's mostly been detached.

Faerie


Well, seeing as how you were killed perhaps this gives an indication. Rubik may still be playing as far as the scum chat goes. Less effort to discord it up vs reading up on the thread to post, ya know? Anyway, given the heat Skystone has, I'm certainly wiling to believe my assessment earlier that your death (I know you can't respond, spare me) served as a means of potentially pushing attention on Skystone.

Bear in mind that someone on the mafia team suggested Amber, and the others were ok with Amber dying. So we got some vicious people. Dark, by virtue of not being aware of the history, seems like a good candidate (on top of his whole lurker votes). I could see him being the one to suggest Amber. Beyond that, someone more agreeable or chaotic would fit into deciding Amber's death. So CL is an option for the chaotic part (because we all know he is -- man is a mad lad). For agreeable I'd go with Arrgh. It *COULD* be Dusky, but I feel Arrgh is the one that would try to walk a tight rope to appease different people. Dusky has her principles that she'd die for (though I feel she is certainly too nice -- which leads to the backstabbing so eh).

Dusky


Due diligence on Dusky's part.



I like this post from Tevish. Interesting that his theoretical scum team is what I was thinking in some form at one point.

Skystone votes Faerie at this point over Faerie's analysis (which gets commented on no less).


Side Note: Regarding the argument, it seems to me that while mafia can benefit from busing, it isn't a benefit that is usually utilized actively as opposed to reactively when a buddy is doing bad/in danger. Powerwolves are the exception. I'm looking at you, Monster, wherever you are.

Also, I totally didn't self pres in the champs game, and you know what happened? I still didn't die because people town read me. Thankfully. But yeah, town should be less concerned with their death as opposed to actively hunting (I have no right to say this lol) since, you know, they win even if they are dead; however, I agree that ultimately this, on a cursory level, is NAI. If this was more nuanced in terms of defensiveness over certain actions and the like as opposed to the overall outlook of being lynched, then I'd say that would be an indication of a certain behavior.

Faerie


Hah haha. Oh, oh no. Ha ha ha.

Also, yes, I realize you're still dead.


CL


You know, in the entire time I've been going through posts, this is like the first CL post I've seen.

Like, yeah, of course we need to figure it out. This contribution could have been greater (though, again, I don't have the right to say that given my absence, but I'm still saying it).

Calling it right now, CL is part of the scum team. Locking in my choice. No takesies backsies.



Pre EoD2 VC


Arrgh joins the Faerie wagon, and Rag joins the Skystone wagon.

JD


I got nothing. I'd much rather prefer this. Pace is more manageable than Champs. Champs it is sink or swim.

Dusky


A lot of defense in Skystone's name. It is Skystone though. And this is Dusky.

Rag was likely killed for the claim though in all honesty. So that probably skews away from my Amber analysis with that particular NK.

@Skystone: I certainly went down in flames. I guarantee it. But I'm like a uhhhhhhh.

Not a phoenix. Those are majestic. I'm more like a curse.

Zinger


This scares me due to the chain lynching. Especially since with Rag flipping town the following argument would have to be that Skystone is scum despite that not being entirely clear. To me at least.

Skystone


Sure; however, in this particular case I still don't feel that Zinger is scum despite his stances. The constant headbutting here makes me think t/t with you two. But hey, you guys could be fooling me with superb performances. Especially if you believe what you say. Powerful stuff. Dangerous. Magical.

I love it.



Same game where he was town no less.

The exact same game where you said Dusky dragged us all kicking and screaming across the finish line. Ha ha ha...

gdi Ex

CL


Hello there, CL.

Mighty interesting vote you got there. Interesting indeed.

Skystone


We just need another Dusky to drag us across the finish line for a V.

Honestly I should just throw peanuts at this because like I can't be the voice of reason here. I legit can run this town into the ground if people give me the power.

Rag


Alas, I admit to this. Unfortunately my vote didn't count against Dusky. Yes, I was trying to vote Dusky. Not Skystone.

Yes, I know you're dead. I'm sorry. Say hello to Amber for me. So deserved better. She died too early and left us before her time.

fkn savages

Zinger v Sky concerning unexplained case that isn't explained (note for myself). Various ppl comment, no Darkstar and CL talks about weight of a duck vs Chocobo. We're quite the detectives.

Dusky


I was under the impression Skystone is a Chocobo. Need I say more?

Skystone's aura was blocking me from seeing scum. That didn't necessarily make him scum beyond a shadow of doubt for me. Especially since I can see better now.


@Dusky: Variant detected?


Darkstar


ikr!? Also, why are you scum this game?

Just admit it and spare us both the agony of what will follow. I mean, unless you like agony. I have no qualms. I'm still going albeit slowly, but still moving.

I can do this all day. Minus work. And sleep. Sigh.



Interesting. He's still a lurker though, unless we're labeling him inactive in which case huh.

Zinger


Hindsight is 20/20, but I agree to a point. Faerie being town and all certainly was unfortunate; however, as I indicated, I was no interested in seeing Skystone go over, and I didn't have strong feelings about Faerie maybe being town thus the vote.

You have my ear though wrt to Arrgh. Poor Arrgh.



Woooow.

Well, you certainly have someone that was interested in pushing that. The aggressor as it were. The other would fit Arrgh as being the one worried about how it'd be received. Maybe Dusky. Maybe.

Rubik isn't active enough to be the aggressor. Plus that's more Rag's schtik. CL would maybe fit as the aggressor.

You'd fit as well, Zinger.





Ok ok, you right. You right. *Sagenod.*




Champs spectator chat would like to have a word with you.




Darkstar


Either I'm tunneling, or I'm just noticing all sorts of small things with you. Your gear change is noted now that you're mobilized against Skystone and, despite using contradictory thoughts, are now committing your vote to him.

Arrgh


This man needs to be lynched. He comes out swinging at Tevish now.

Vote: Arrgh

CL


Y.I.K.E.S.

Arrgh


DOUBLE

Y.I.K.E.S.

For real though, Arrgh is likely scum here as he has now switched from Skystone/mentioning Tevish to Dusky.

Yes yes, I know what I said about Dusky, but I have new information to work with. Besides, I did change up the scum team comp to be CL, Arrgh, and Darkstar. So yeah.

TL;DR:

I'm of the opinion now that we're looking at a scum team of Darkstar, CL, and Arrgh.

At the least, Arrgh's perspectives regarding Skystone, Tevish, and now Dusky are striking to me. In an off way. I see no hard hitting analysis from him more so than riding on the coattails of another person's outlook.

Dark, for his own part, was entirely focused on a lurker vote until switching gears recently. I am getting scummy vibes, but nowhere near as much as I am from Arrgh for comparision.

CL strikes me as someone who could act as an aggressor for perpetuating the Amber kill. But, and I say this as something additional that isn't listed above entirely I believe, it is possible that someone more organized in thought and execution (not CL) is the aggressor. To that end, MAYBE Zinger or Tevish. Tevish does have a point in his favor for D1, but I could be entirely wrong about him too.

Either way, I am opposed to Skystone's lynch as I don't think he's scum here. If anything, I do think, as he's said and talked about, that he is the subject of misdirection.



With my opinion having been said, I must disappear for a bit. I will endeavor to check back in though. Hopefully before EoD.

Yeah, I'm riding coattails, because I'm severely burned out on Mafia and that's what I feel like giving right now. Besides, I've never been good with original reads anyway. I prefer solving mechanically when possible, and when I can't I look at other people's reads until I find something I can agree with. I know that's not the best or strongest play, but it's what I'm comfortable with.

@kod
If I'm scum and sky is town at L-1, then why would I wait on you

*is still waiting for somebody to realize 5-3 isn't 1*

I pointed out he wasn't at L-1 a long time ago, and I'm still shooting dagger eyes at Aaarrrgh for acting like he was as an excuse to avoid jumping on the bandwagon.

I, too, feel that Aaarrrgh fits the bill for the more hesitant one in the chat I glimpsed. But, that said, KoD does have a tendency to peg Aaarrrgh as scum whether or not Aaarrrgh is scum.

CL is most likely town. KoD is just wrong there.

And Skystone is so obviously the open wolf that orchestrated the plan to push KoD into a rage, the fact that KoD think Sky is town is somewhat astounding.

Mafia team is Skystone, Dusky, and (Aaarrrgh or Tevish).

Can we lynch Sky now?

Well, since I obviously disagree with KoD's conclusions, there's no reason for me not to this:

unvote; vote: Skystone

Sorry for my silence.
I have a big post coming up in the next couple hours, which I am working on for 2 or 3 days more or less.

FACT NUMBER 4 WILL SHOCK YOU!!!

I am intrigued and I want to know more.

Your clickbait game is on point.

This actually simple.
12 players
Rag, faerie, amber are dead.
That's 9
I'm town, kods town, and zingers town.
That's 6.
There's 3 mafia.
That's 50-50 shot without even trying

I still think we need to lynch tevish by the way. Probably could solve easy if we lynch tevish.

Wow. I'm agreeing with CL.

Has hell frozen over?

I feel icky.

@KoD: Very sorry to hear about your private situation. My condolences.

KoD's post was a good opportunity to reflect on everything that happened. I agree with him on many counts.
In my opinion, the most likely teams are Darkstar, Aaarrrgh, Tevish, or swapping CL for one of the latter two.

I can sympathize with Aaarrrgh's burn out as I am feeling similar. However, I think it's pretty much NAI, so don't see it as an 'excuse' so to speak.

Darkstar I see as the most likely culprit with both the planning and the way he's been playing.

Vote: Darkstar

This might change after his promised post - we'll see.

On Skystone I am about 65% to 35% (town - scum). Would vote Aaarrrgh over him.