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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:24 am 
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@Zinger:

Is that you playing good cop?

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It's me playing sassy cop, which I guess is probably closer to good than bad.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:00 am 
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Ok, we're working through this at a reasonable level then.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:18 am 
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Duskyblue wrote:
JayDreven wrote:
Since Dusky is very obviously not scum I can get behind her wagon choice.

Vote: KoD

Why KoD over Zinger? In any case, I am obviously still on board.
Unvote, Vote: KoD

I feel like this D1 might come back to haunt us.


Probably one part me being cop buddy against KoD, one part I feel like Zinger went out early (fairly) the last couple of games. Possibly one part KoD trying to paint the game as town v. SK early on. I find it interesting that both backed off quickly after KoD got pressure. KoD's especially so since he unvoted to "have time to respond" immediately after trying to say Skystone wasn't actually in any danger of being lynched, invalidating the argument completely.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:34 am 
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I can be wrong.

Sometimes.

Though you are using what occurred after the fact wrt to your vote.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:36 am 
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Ok, I'm also obligated to point out that two votes isn't as much pressure as L-1 is.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:51 am 
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My interest in the reaction to the wagon is clearly a separate thought to why I chose the wagon I did (notable, if for no other reason, by it lacking being listed as a part). Your defensiveness is noted though.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:02 am 
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That's your opinion. I don't think Skystone is one of the most useful players. :bored:

Are you defending him cuz you're his scumbuddy?

Honestly, putting pressure (ie. lynch range) on someone with zero evidence is usually how Day 1 is played. I'm not sure it's the scumtell you want to make others believe it is.

Unvote

To make the record clear: I'm unvoting because putting pressure on Skystone has had the desired effect already, not because Dusky thinks voting Sky was a bad move and is trying to throw shade my way.

I know in your mind that's always you. ;)

KoD's whole argument is that Skystone is too capable/dangerous to have around. What is yours?

Also, why did you unvote?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:03 am 
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@Zinger: Never mind my last question regarding the unvote. I missed that you already answered that.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:21 am 
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7)

Yes, and that makes Dusky a weak point vs a scum aligned Skystone. You'll end up having an advantage because she'll protect those she reps as mayor. I mean, just look at how she has reacted thus far? Clearly your presence has shifted the balance in your favor while she is around.

8) How so? The possible lack of teammates doesn't negate that you act as a puppet master with your available tools. That is, you are more than capable of mind controlling town. *Cough*Dusky.*Cough*


I will vote Skystone if there's a good case against him. Yes, I prefer having him around (especially when I'm town, less so as mafia) but I am still playing to win and will off him when necessary. I'm representing you as mayor as well. ;) We also have M0nster in this game, more than counter balancing any protictive feelings I may have.

Besides, in the same vein, we could argue you are a weak point against scum aligned Zinger.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:27 am 
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But JD, you were responding Dusky's question originally, and that question was posited long before my unvote on Skystone. Defensive or not, on my part, the point still stands that you chose me over Zinger for some reasons (and other reasons that occurred after the fact).

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:29 am 
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Duskyblue wrote:
Besides, in the same vein, we could argue you are a weak point against scum aligned Zinger.


Have you seen me butt heads with Zinger before?

Truly I'm like the least "weak point" wrt to other people here.

Unless it is JD.





Or Amber, though that resolves itself.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:31 am 
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Also, you're not the mayor of Dominaria. You're only a small part of what I hold so dear to me.

My dear Dominaria. The jewel of the Multiverse.



Also also, I see no viable way of you seeing through Skystone's duplicity to be an asset against a scum aligned Skystone. If anything, you offer an extra vote in his defense. That makes my job harder.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:52 am 
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It's true I am not. But you were a small part of what I hold so dear to me.

Of all the players here (or anywhere), I know Skystone and his play best. I will see through him before you!

Unvote, Vote: M0nster


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:54 am 
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Duskyblue wrote:
KoD's whole argument is that Skystone is too capable/dangerous to have around. What is yours?


Strictly speaking anyone with the ability to kill is capable/dangerous. Suffice it to say, Skystone is certainly above average, and extremely intelligent. He can get away with pulling the wool over our collective eyes.

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Duskyblue wrote:
It's true I am not. But you were a small part of what I hold so dear to me.


Whaaaaaaaaaaat?


Also, I will not dispute your claim to knowing Skystone the best; however, I will kindly disagree with you over Skystone's scummy-ness for the time being until I come to a verdict on his innocence.

As it stands, both Monster and Arrgh have talked the least though that may have something to do with the context of our conversations for D1 thus far. So, how about we shake things up a little?

Arrgh is a power role because he's being lurky.

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I'm mostly lurking because I don't have much to add to the current conversation (which you correctly surmised). I will not comment on the power level of my role (which I honestly can't due to not knowing how strong other people's roles), except to point out that I already soft claimed part of my role.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:36 am 
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But JD, you were responding Dusky's question originally, and that question was posited long before my unvote on Skystone. Defensive or not, on my part, the point still stands that you chose me over Zinger for some reasons (and other reasons that occurred after the fact).


And your unvote of skystone was not listed as a contributing factor to my selection of the wagon but was part of the commentary on the reaction to the wagon after I answered her question, which decidedly took place after the wagon, thus qualifying as a reaction to it.

As for power roles theoretically we are all power roles as long as we submit decent roles for ourselves.

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Referring to the parts then. One of which was after the fact wrt to Dusky's question and your decision to go with me. Course, your perspective of my unvote from Skystone matters in some context. Perhaps not as a "listed" part of what contributed to you choosing me, but it certainly plays a part in susing me I would imagine. I suppose the more important question is "Why?".

Clearly, as stated, you view the two votes as being sufficient pressure that caused me to back off. Plus, you view my statement of giving myself time to respond as counterintuitive to my perspective on the layout of the votes.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:09 pm 
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Arrgh is clear of being scum this game btw.

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