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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:48 am 
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I accept the pinky promise as proposed

At our earliest convenience, each of us will claim the following:

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1: I am "Only One Pinky to Give"
2: I can only make one Pinky Promise over the course of the game. However, this promise cannot be broken by either party, nor may it be denied
3: It is implied that the ability to "deny" a promise and abilities that let multiple parties choose to Pinky Promise or not in relation to a single ability exist in this game
4: I am Town Aligned

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:26 am 
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Ragnarokio wrote:
I'd also like to say that as long as you think that breaking a promise probably has harsher consequences than making a promise, then the immediate result of everyone making a promise that as mafia will be automatically broken is:

every player will have made a promise (which may or may not carry consequences)
every mafia player will have broken a promise (which probably will carry consequences)

I can agree that there is some basis to be wary of making promises but i think that its worth forcing every mafia player to break a promise.

With that said, we may as well wait until JD clarifies the promise making process before anyone else jumps on the wagon.

I’m actually not worried about being forced to break it.
But I’d like to wait a bit longer before making any promises because I’m afraid I might accidentally break one as the game goes on.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:26 am 
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aaand I quotes the wrong message


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:33 am 
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Do we know how the Pinky Promises work?
Like, can we promise things out of our control? Do they always have to involve multiple parties?

My role isn’t a formal one, so I actually have less information than any of you so if yall could put on the table anything you know about the mechanics that would be cool.

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I accept the pinky promise as proposed

At our earliest convenience, each of us will claim the following:

1: Code Name
2: All Abilities
3: All mechanical information we possess regarding other players roles and alignments
4: Our own alignment



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1: I am "Only One Pinky to Give"
2: I can only make one Pinky Promise over the course of the game. However, this promise cannot be broken by either party, nor may it be denied
3: It is implied that the ability to "deny" a promise and abilities that let multiple parties choose to Pinky Promise or not in relation to a single ability exist in this game
4: I am Town Aligned
So you just used your only Pinkie Promise in accepting her offer? Or are you limited to only offering one?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:36 am 
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You and I will be good friends, Ex.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:32 am 
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_ExLight wrote:
Do we know how the Pinky Promises work?
Like, can we promise things out of our control? Do they always have to involve multiple parties?


Yes and no. Open promises aren't tied to any role in the game. They exist as an added layer to the basic game dynamic. The information knowable on them is stated in the OP combined with clarifications I give in thread. The consequences of breaking open promises are known to nobody. Role specific promises are enumerated in each players role PM and are not subject to Open Promises policies, meaning breaking those won't incur the open policy consequences but have consequences of their own that may or may not be spelled out in the role PMs as well.

You may promise anything you want, whether you have control of it or not. If you don't, however, you also won't have control over if you break that promise or not and will still be subject to consequences accordingly.

Promises do not have to be between parties. Rag's initial promises are an example of a single party promise. They are made to nobody in particular, but carry the same weight as a multiple party promise.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:52 am 
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I see I see, that makes sense, thanks.


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Does anyone want to break a minor open promise just so we find out the penalty? Presumably not, but it would be fun to see.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:07 am 
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@Rag

I accept the pinky promise as proposed

At our earliest convenience, each of us will claim the following:

1: Code Name
2: All Abilities
3: All mechanical information we possess regarding other players roles and alignments
4: Our own alignment



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1: I am "Only One Pinky to Give"
2: I can only make one Pinky Promise over the course of the game. However, this promise cannot be broken by either party, nor may it be denied
3: It is implied that the ability to "deny" a promise and abilities that let multiple parties choose to Pinky Promise or not in relation to a single ability exist in this game
4: I am Town Aligned



1: I am "With This Pinky I Thee Protect"
2: Each night I can make a pinkie promise with another player to protect them. If they would be killed before the following night I can either uphold my vow or break it and lett them die.
3: Aside from what is implied by my ability, I possess no concrete information about other player's roles or alignments.
4: I am town aligned.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:08 am 
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Aaarrrgh wrote:
Does anyone want to break a minor open promise just so we find out the penalty? Presumably not, but it would be fun to see.


I wouldn't mind doing this as long as the player was selected either pseudo-randomly or by vote. The town potentially gains information from it and if its done properly it should have a reasonable chance of hitting mafia instead of town (although if it did the consequences might not be apparent, depending on what they are)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:12 am 
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Ragnarokio wrote:
WRT forcing everyone to make a promise that they'll break if they're mafia:

1. Ragnarokio - has made promise
6. Naga - has made promise
10. Mongoose - has made promise

13. Ex - hasn't made promise, worried about being forced to break it.
5. Skychoco - hasn't made promise, doesn't see the value in it
2. KoD - didn't make promise because "it wasn't fun"
12. Amber - Is afraid of being unable to keep promise
11. Dusky - Thinks its risky to make promises
7. Tevish - Hasn't made promise, Says they're limited in their promise-making abilities (either strategically or mechanically)


I made a promise with KoD. And proposed one to Skystone and CL (who both rejected me).
I do think it's risky (as the mod keeps confirming) but this is a game called pinky promise... so that's what I'm here for.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:17 am 
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We've all got to have absolute faith. This is why our promises are important.

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We've all got to have absolute faith. This is why our promises are important.

Right Ex?
Lol, I have the feeling you’d break you promises without hesitation if that meant you **** me over.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:43 am 
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I’ll start abbreviating Pinkie Promise as pp or peepee because it’s **** hilarious and you can’t ducking stop me!!

I think I’ll claim too, lol.

I’m a fake player at the moment, so I’m not aligned to anyone, not even myself. As consequence I can’t win or lose atm.

I’m not sure what I have to do to obtain an alignment (probably some specific kind of peepee), I can force some peepee to be unbreakable which is pretty strong (in regards of something forcefully breaking them, not if one of the parties decides to backstab), and since my situation is a bit bizarre I‘m assuming I can actually do some interesting stuff like breaking my peepee at will without being punished afaik (there might be non-explicit punishments so I don’t really wanna take risks, although I wouldn’t ever break a peepee willingly anyway).

I’m honestly a bit lost on what to do since I don’t want to play against an eventual wincon, but I plan on trying to solve and make the game entertaining while I’m here. uwu
I think I’d be more interested to side with a 3p atm, since their wincon sounds easier to achieve and would prolly synergize well with my ability, but honestly it’s a bit too early since I’m not sure on what to expect.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:46 am 
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You could always make a vow with me, Ex.

It's not like I would stab at you from beyond the grave or anything.

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You could always make a vow with me, Ex.

It's not like I would stab at you from beyond the grave or anything.
you whore we could’ve won that and you could’ve saved JD


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Yeah, but I was too busy watching you being stabbed.

How about we make oaths in good faith to one another?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:14 am 
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I’m still vunerable to backstabbing so not sure why I’d do that :v

what sort of promise?


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