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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:48 pm 
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@Zinger:

You don't know my scumtells. CL has a better grasp of me.

How else do you explain his 360 no scope of me that one game?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:33 pm 
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So what you're saying is you have nothing relevant to discuss but you're gonna drag day out for another twenty some odd hours anyways?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:11 am 
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Some progress is being made, but you still don't know nearly enough about what is happening here. You decide to spread out through the house and do your own individual investigations for a while. You will reconvene later.

It is now Night 2.

You have 24 hours.

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As you are all wandering around the large townhouse looking for clues, you suddenly hear a crashing sound from above, followed by a sickening thud from below. There is a lot of rushing back and forth, trying to figure out what just happened, and eventually you all come to realize that Father Brown, a.k.a Zinger2099, was apparently walking among the orchids in the rooftop greenhouse when someone pushed him straight through the glass wall and onto the street below. Another tragedy, and another reason for all of you to figure this out as quickly as possible.

It is now Day 3.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:43 am 
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I have investigated JD. I received that he was the Killer

At this point, I have investigated myself, JD, and KoD. Zinger and Amber are dead. The only world in which I can be Insane (rather than Paranoid) is the one in which Mongoose is scum.

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I back tracked on my investigations and went back to day one (night 0) and re-targeted KoD last night. Pulled out a KoD is scum result today.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:58 am 
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I have to reread something rq in the setup thread.

B R B R Q

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:59 am 
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Ok, now I'm rereading a specific post in here.

B R B R Q AGAIN

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:00 pm 
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JayDreven wrote:
Investigated KoD, received that he is the killer


Same. Except opposite.


JD is the killer.

Lynch him if you believe me, or lynch me if you don't believe me.

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This kills me in my heart of hearts, but JD is the killer for the following reason:

I doubled back to investigate Tevish, and my result was that, unlike my first time inspecting him, he is no longer the killer.

The killer's ability only flips one person's result once (on N0), and, between JD and I, one of us is the killer from an outside perspective due to the double claim on a result flip.

I have not looked at how this affects people's sanities, but you can trust that everyone else's results except either JD or my first result is compromised and work from there.

Vote: JD

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Except either one of us could still be random as well. Tevish stated yesterday we needed to push through to a 2:1 for the most information possible, the inclusion of a random cop essentially necessitates this. But the killer doesn't have that disadvantage today. A mislynch today gives them the game. So your aggression is noted KoD, but Tevish is still right in that we need to push this to maximum information.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:48 pm 
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I investigated Tevish, and he is the killer.

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I'm leaning more towards my aggression than I am the idea I may be random. After all, a 1 in 5 chance of me being random is lower than 4/5 chance at being something else. Especially since, for me personally, a change on my first result would mean I got two town results -- *This is the moment where I may have ran face first into a wall.*

Tevish killer, Zinger detective. Tevish not killer. Flip on Tevish means Tevish detective. Tevish now detective is in line with Tevish first flip. Therefore I am more than likely Sane or Naive with an outside chance (not likely) at being random.

Yeah, I'm comfortable in my assessment.

Although, I suppose you could be random. For sure one result would have been flipped, and both of us can't be random.

Plus, because why not, I have no honest reason to believe Mongoose is the killer. I actually believed it was Zinger up until he died which says something about you and Tevish. I know Tevish is a cold, calculating thinker. You, on the other hand, are downright devious.

Both of you are dangerous though.

So I have to question who would kill Amber first (lol right?), and kill the guy that was arguing with me about being the last to reveal results. Because seriously, massive applause to whoever followed that through (except Mongoose).

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:21 pm 
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If my N0 results were flipped then that marks Tevish as the killer. However if my N0 results weren't flipped then I would have to be random. Further more we are in a LyLo situation as it is, if we mislynch today we won't have another chance tomorrow, and if we wait until tomorrow it is still LyLo. As the game state currently stands I feel that Tevish is most likely the killer. Vote: Tevish

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No, Tevish can't be the killer.

I'll preface this with I haven't deep dived into the results (of others) as of yet; however, between JD AND I claiming a flip to our initial result, one of us is random while the other would have been flipped (assuming we're both town).

Adding you into the mix just means the killer is among us three. Tevish's own results would give that impression I'd imagine.

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Unvote: Tevish

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No, Tevish can't be the killer.

I'll preface this with I haven't deep dived into the results (of others) as of yet; however, between JD AND I claiming a flip to our initial result, one of us is random while the other would have been flipped (assuming we're both town).

Adding you into the mix just means the killer is among us three. Tevish's own results would give that impression I'd imagine.


I'll agree with your assessment of Tevish and preface by I have finished my deep dive. Tevish is the only player that can be ruled out as being scum right now, meaning putting all your eggs in one basket without even analyzing things is either stupidly rash or a scum move. Goose's vote jumping makes me lean towards stupidly rash. More information can lean us in the right direction there though, so that's going to be my aim.

Hopefully the one of you that is actually town pulls his head out his ass and skips. If not, Tevish, what do you think about trying to offset votes for a no lynch?

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I suppose I should probably read the rules on voting. I imagine a lynch wont' occur right at this moment so I'm eh about unvoting.

But I do need to deep dive into the results.

Problem is I'll be constructing it from memory for the most part until I can go look when I'm not occupied. Great I'm not even 30s into this and I have to go look.

N0 (1 result flipped)
KoD: Tevish - Killer
JD: KoD - ~Killer
Tevish: KoD - Killer
Zinger: Goose - Killer
Mongoose: Amber - Killer
Amber: Amber - ~Killer

4 killers, 2 no killers. 1 is random, 1 was likely flipped, and 1 is a liar.
Assuming everyone is honest (flawed, yes), the two no killers are the best candidates for Sane and Naive (though there is an outside chance that the Sane hit a positive result on the killer while one of the no killers is truly random).

Since I only care about myself, JD (if honest) is either random, Naive, or Sane atm. Tevish, in contrast if honest, would be either Insane or Paranoid (or random).


N1 (Amber killed)
KoD: Zinger - ~Killer
JD: Goose - ~Killer
Tevish: Tevish - Killer
Zinger: KoD - Killer
Mongoose: Zinger - ~Killer

N2 (Zinger killed)
KoD: Tevish - ~Killer
JD: KoD - Killer
Tevish: JD - Killer
Mongoose: Tevish - Killer


There is a reason Amber targeted first, and it is independent of me.



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KoD: Tevish (K), Zinger (~K), Tevish (~K)
JD: KoD (~K), Goose (~K), KoD (K)
Tevish: KoD (K), Tevish (K), JD (K)
Mongoose: Amber (K), Zinger (~K), Tevish (K)
Zinger: Goose (K), KoD (K), Killed
Amber: Amber (~K), Killed





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2 results on 2 people. 2 on me (Tevish and JD) and 2 on Amber (Goose and Amber). Amber was targeted N1 for death. Amber and Goose had differing results on her. Contrast that with Tevish and JD who had differing results on me. Why her? Her and JD were the only two with similar results N0 (~K). Likely they were not tampered with. More than likely, given all the N0 results, the two ~K results came from the Naive and, maybe, Sane detective. That would be as opposed to the Insane returning K (4 Ks in total) and the Paranoid (definite K).

At the very least it is safe to say that Amber was likely hit as a hopeful attempt at a 50/50 shot at the Sane detective. Amber is definitely not the Insane one. I assert this because of recent events with JD, myself, and Goose claiming (huh Goose was not claiming a flip on his first target -- I wonder why he fingered Tevish?).

N0 could've been anyone. N1 Amber was killed (likely 50/50 shot in dark). Why Zinger next? I reported a different result the second time around. Tevish and Zinger reported similar results meaning 50/50 shot there for the Insane one.

Between Tevish and Zinger: If Zinger is the Insane, then JD is the killer. Otherwise, Tevish would be the Insane and Goose would be the killer. No matter what, both Tevish and Zinger have investigated me which, if I'm correct, should clear me regardless of which is the Insane one.

One person was definitely flipped for their first result. That much is true. I investigated Tevish N0 and N2 and got different results. JD, likewise, targeted me N0 and N2 with different results obtained. IF my first result was flipped, that'd make me Naive which I do not believe is the case. It's possible I could be random, but 3 nights of the same result (if I was flipped first night) seems less likely compared to just being Naive (which, again, can't be since that was either Amber or maybe JD -- ah but now an issue with JD's results).

And an issue with Goose's results too.

Goose has to be either random or Insane given his results, but he can't be Insane because Zinger was not the killer. That means Goose HAS to be the

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