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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:29 pm 
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It's time to Brawl!

list: https://www.gachalog.com/list/72871279

I realized I have lost all concept of how to build 60 card decks.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:24 pm 
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It's time to Brawl!

list: https://www.gachalog.com/list/72871279

I realized I have lost all concept of how to build 60 card decks.

Fun times. :party: I was able to make this entire thing without swapping out any cards.

Played three matches. I only won one, but all three were quite fun to play. So you got that going for you!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:47 pm 
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Zinger2099 wrote:
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In as third party. If I don't submit a deck list I'll have to be the third party role.

If you don't submit a decklist, you haven't signed up according to the rules.


Technically they say when you sign up you pick a deck list, not TO sign up pick a deck list... :incognito:

4x Stern Dismissal
4x Thieves' Guild Enforcer
4x Frantic Inventory
4x Drown in the Loch
2x Soaring Thought-Thief
2x Didn't Say Please
2x Teferi's Tutelage
4x Blackbloom Rogue
4x Murder
2x Nimana Skydancer
2x Relic Golem
2x Zareth San, the Trickster
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:49 am 
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I only have one copy of Thieves' Guild Enforcer, but I have the rest of your deck.

I first tested it with -3 TGE, replaced with +2 Soaring Thought-Thiefs and +1 Glasspool Mimic (who could, in theory, become TGE), but after 1 match I replaced the Glasspool Mimic with +1 Merfolk Windrobber because having only a Mimic in hand and no creatures to copy in play really sucked.

Not counting the initial Glasspool run, I played 3 matches and won zero. Was super close to winning 2 of 3 times though (opponent had less than 2 life when lost both times). I accept that the deck probably would have done better with all four copies of TGE, but whatcha gonna do?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:21 am 
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60 Island

lmk if this isn't legal and i might edit it eventually anyways if thats ok

This deck won 1 match (of 3).

Opponent conceded because he/she didn't like their opening hand, but I am counting it.

60 Islands > Dimir Rogues.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:23 am 
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Now, should I play my mill deck, or my white aggro/lifegain?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:42 am 
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But I really like both decks! Granted, the milk deck occasionally makes people rage quit (which I think is unwarranted).

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:53 am 
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But I really like both decks! Granted, the milk deck occasionally makes people rage quit (which I think is unwarranted).


having seen videos on how dairy cows are treated i don't think its unwarranted

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:15 am 
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That was obviously supposed to say "mill". Also, not all dairy cows are mistreated. I grew up on a dairy farm in Sweden, and the wellbeing of the animals was always the top priority. But that is neither here nor there.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:10 am 
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Well, all submitted decks so far are blue so... A white deck would be vastly different.

But we don't have a mill deck (JD's deck has a bit of mill but is not mill focused), so that too would be interesting.

Pick whatever you want.

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But we don't have a mill deck (JD's deck has a bit of mill but is not mill focused), so that too would be interesting.


The entire deck is built around milling the opponent...no wonder you didn't win any matches... :-P

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But we don't have a mill deck (JD's deck has a bit of mill but is not mill focused), so that too would be interesting.


The entire deck is built around milling the opponent...no wonder you didn't win any matches... :-P

I meant its win condition isn't "mill your opponent to death", as you would expect a mill deck to have.

I mean, there's a theme around milling the opponent for sure, but it's only for like, to get the rogues "8 cards in opponents graveyard" or the loch's "counter target spell with cmc less than the number of cards in opponent's graveyard" online (or just straight up to put stuff for Zareth to steal in there).

The real win condition is obviously beat face with rogues that are made stronger once your opponents have been milled.

Thieves' Guild-Enforcer is the backbone of your deck, and I only had 1 copy so. That's probably the real reason I lost all three matches. That, or player skill. lol

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:13 am 
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The real win condition is obviously beat face with rogues that are made stronger once your opponents have been milled.


That's the real rub with this deck, it's built to be a double threat. Getting milled is a very real possibility, especially once multiple enforcers and tutelage are down. Beefing your rogues can be used as a beat stick, but it also creates a solid line of defense if you can't get through to your opponent while you mill them out.

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The real win condition is obviously beat face with rogues that are made stronger once your opponents have been milled.


That's the real rub with this deck, it's built to be a double threat. Getting milled is a very real possibility, especially once multiple enforcers and tutelage are down. Beefing your rogues can be used as a beat stick, but it also creates a solid line of defense if you can't get through to your opponent while you mill them out.

Yeah, that's fair.

With only one copy of Enforcer, I never even saw her in any of the three games I played. And as we've established, she's the backbone of the deck.

But don't worry. Winrate I had with your deck over three games will have little to no impact on your role. It's more about how the deck played than anything.

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I'm not worried anyway because I signed up as 3P. :teach:

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Eh, fine, I'll play my Linden, the Steadfast Queen deck. Drop a bunch of creatures, and if you can't win through aggro the lifegain keeps you going until you can win through either Light of Promise, Hallowed Priest, or Angel of Destiny.

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1 Beloved Princess (ELD) 7
24 Plains (M20) 261
1 Faerie Guidemother (ELD) 11
1 Giant Killer (ELD) 14
1 Luminous Broodmoth (IKO) 21
1 Alseid of Life's Bounty (THB) 1
1 Anointed Chorister (M21) 4
1 Outflank (ELD) 23
1 Leonin Warleader (M19) 23
1 Faith's Fetters (M21) 17
1 Light of Promise (M21) 25
1 Speaker of the Heavens (M21) 38
1 Mace of the Valiant (ELD) 314
1 Syr Alin, the Lion's Claw (ELD) 32
1 Daxos, Blessed by the Sun (THB) 9
1 Impassioned Orator (RNA) 12
1 Silverflame Squire (ELD) 31
1 Trapped in the Tower (ELD) 33
1 Banishing Light (THB) 4
1 Hallowed Priest (ANB) 9
1 Rally for the Throne (ELD) 25
1 Maned Serval (IKO) 23
1 Griffin Aerie (M21) 22
1 Angel of Vitality (M20) 4
1 Pacifism (M20) 32
1 Swift Response (M21) 40
1 Heraldic Banner (ELD) 222
1 Concordia Pegasus (M21) 12
1 Alpine Watchdog (M21) 2
1 Fencing Ace (M20) 16
1 Basri's Solidarity (M21) 10
1 Silverflame Ritual (ELD) 30
1 Swallow Whole (IKO) 35
1 Basri Ket (M21) 7
1 Kor Celebrant (ZNR) 22
1 Angel of Destiny (ZNR) 2

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I was able to craft your entire deck for testing, no swaps required.

It went 2 for 3.

The one match it lost I had the other player down to 2 life when they managed to stabalize. The bastard!

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I was able to craft your entire deck for testing, no swaps required.

It went 2 for 3.

The one match it lost I had the other player down to 2 life when they managed to stabalize. The bastard!


Such is the aggro life. At least the deck works in brawl. Linden would never win anything in Commander.

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