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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:04 pm 
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I still kinda do to, but If I don't I'd like her to shoot Zinger.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:38 pm 
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Yeah, testing the interaction between the delayed kill and Zinger's bulletproof would be good. There really isn't much to work with here. Rag is the only one killing people, do scum hunting is pretty much impossible.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:06 pm 
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Rubik wrote:
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You probably won't end game that alignment anyways? :party:

It's decently likely I will.

Regardless, if I'm survivor + alignment I'm less likely to win than just alignment


i think numbers would know more about the likelyhood of you ending the game as a given alignment than you would

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:11 pm 
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on another note numbers' statement makes me kind of scared the game is going to be ended by a cult

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:03 pm 
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I've been thinking a lot and after doing some math its time to put all my cards on the table

I lied about my alignment. I'm not alien aligned, I'm mafia aligned. I also have a partner. Everything else I've said so far has been true I think.

I started the game with naga as my partner, but he was culted on N1. All he was told was that his alignment changed, and not who culted him.
On N2 zinger was culted.
Thanks to Naga's diviner abilities, I know that Tevish is the cult leader.

Also, here's how my killing ability actually works: I poison someone and every time they make a post for the rest of the game they have a chance to die. If someone doesn't post for the rest of the game they can probably guarantee they'll never die. This is tied to my alignment. My role ability is that I can control the vote of whoever votes immediately after me.

I'm happy that my pals naga and zinger were culted but am a little sad that i wasn't included. I'm claiming now in the hopes of striking a deal with tevish. 3/7 of the game are currently cult, and although I don't know the exact mechanics of the cult, I would guess that going into tomorrow we'll be 4/6 which should be a cult victory. If we no lynch today and I kill tevish tonight however, then tomorrow the cult will be 2/6 with two of their members outed. Inevitably, i'll also be lynched because I'm mafia. This will result in a town win, presumably, which neither me nor the cult wants. Whats important is that I'm capable and willing of exploding if things don't turn out how i want.

Obviously what I want is to be culted, and so I'll ask that the cult and me form a voting bloc (we have 5 votes together today, including my charismatic vote), and lynch someone other than me, probably rubik because he can revive someone.

One thing I'm unsure about is how the timing on my ability will interfere with the cult win-con. I wasn't given the probability of someone dying when they post, but given the first two apparently triggered at (at most) the 2nd and 4th post, Its probably not too low. If the cult have a 4/6 majority but one of them is poisoned, there's a chance they'll die immediately upon voting, thus nullifying their majority and meaning the lynch comes down to a 50/50. Its possible they'll just win once they have a majority though, regardless of whether or not one of them is poisoned.

Regardless of whether or not tevish agrees to my conditions I'm going to poison him tonight. This won't jeapordize the cult victory. If I'm culted, we'll still have a majority because of my double-vote. If I'm not culted however, town+mafia will have the majority instead. If this happens, I'll assume tevish has decided not to win with me and to place his bets somewhere else, and me and the town will proceed to lynch tevish and then probably myself, and the game will end in a town victory.

Naga is on board with me posting this and can confirm that its all true. I assume zinger and tevish will also confirm that they are cult now that the cats out of the bag, but that's up to them.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:21 am 
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also sorry zinger i realize my outing you probably marginally decreases your chances of winning and i feel a little bad about that but i didn't think tevish would cult me if i didn't pull this

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You have misread the situation entirely, friend.

You haven't been culted because I knew I could probably count on you to side with me until the end game, where I could comfortably cult you later when I was no longer in any danger. Early I needed to target Naga and Tevish because if I didn't force their hand to my team one of them would have gotten me killed.

I am the cult leader. And this game is already in the bag. It's just a matter of who wins with the Cult, and who dies.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:51 am 
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this contradicts some of what I heard but I'll wait for tevish to confirm your statement. You andou tevish being reversed doesn't cause any issues though, should still be game. If anything its better for me since I don't need to threaten you to get you to cult me

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@JD, votecount, please?

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Well, that sucks. I clearly backed all of the wrong horses this game. Lovely.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:30 am 
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Well, that sucks. I clearly backed all of the wrong horses this game. Lovely.

Either that, or you backed the right horses. :party:

I was planning to cult you before game end...

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You have misread the situation entirely, friend.

You haven't been culted because I knew I could probably count on you to side with me until the end game, where I could comfortably cult you later when I was no longer in any danger. Early I needed to target Naga and Tevish because if I didn't force their hand to my team one of them would have gotten me killed.

I am the cult leader. And this game is already in the bag. It's just a matter of who wins with the Cult, and who dies.

Bloody called it.

But I'm a cultist now so Ia Zinger Fthagn.

Though while I was informed my alignment changed to cult (and not who the rest of the cultists were, oddly enough), I was not explicitly told about any change to WinCon. Hopefully cult is a baked in wincon 'cause that would be unfortunate otherwise. I'm gonna play like it is.

Also I'm bulletproof like I asked so there's two bulletproof cultists now. Also part of why I was suspicious of Zinger since I didn't think we'd get two bulletproof otherwise vanilla townies.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:46 am 
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i'm kind of surprised zinger targeted tevish over argh, tbh

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Aaarrrgh was already on my side, agreeing with pretty much everything I said. Tevish was trying to get me killed. Were you not paying attention at all? xD

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i guess i just didn't peg you as that cold hearted

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i guess i just didn't peg you as that cold hearted

Cold hearted? :cry:

What, for allowing aaarrrgh to trust me? His trust will be rewarded when I cult him.

...if he can survive long enough to get culted.

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Well, if I get culted tonight and Rag tomorrow, that should work out for all of us, wouldn't it? (Sorry to other townies, I don't think there's much chance for a town win at this point)

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assuming we no lynch today and cult today, that means there will be 7 people alive tomorrow, 4 of whom will be cult, which, assuming a standard win-con, would end the game.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:13 am 
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the five alignments were probably

Amber - Ancient Egyptian
Argh, CL, Rubik, Tevish, Shock - Town
KoD - Self
Me, Naga - Mafia
Zinger - Cult

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But you have both a kill and a double vote, right? It might be possible that cult cannot win as long as you oppose them. Otherwise, if we assume cult can win while dead, we could just lynch Naga or Tevish. They shouldn't have to much of an issue with that.

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