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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:10 pm 
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I killed more scum than the entire town combined and they say they lose less by lynching me
I'm kinda offended, not gonna lie


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:10 pm 
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JD what happened if KoD got killed during the day?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:11 pm 
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Dammit, should've went with my intial feeling from d1 of KoD being mafia.

@Naga, if JD is lying he won't die anyways, so we'll know he's lying then. Ex is either Survivor or Mafia so there's not a ton of harm lynching there. But I have to rethink some things first. I think I even said yesterday that Ex didn't seem as town as d1 when he was actually town. So I could see him possibly being mafia. Though I don't get the funnier being mafia because he was revealed as yellow town?

I'm just gonna lock Freddeh and Tevish as town because I think my mind would explode thinking there might be some tinfoil scum play there.

Naga, would you be willing to claim? I think I may know what part of your role is just from process of elimination.


What do you think you know of my role?

As I said before, I'm green town. My role is that every night I make a toy that I can give to someone (at night). Once I give a toy to someone, they can no longer target me. As there have been four nights, I have produced four toys. The first night, I gave one to Freddeh, and the ability partially failed. I don't know why it partially failed, and as far as I know this has never come up. I also don't know if that means Freddeh can't target me or not. For the rest of the toys, they have not been used yet.

@Freddeh: were you notified that I/PK targeted you? Do you know why the ability may have failed?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:22 pm 
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Wouldn't the best way to test JD's claims be to lynch JD? If JD is telling the truth, he's going to lie anyways, but if JD is lying it could lead to a mislynch of Ex. Sounds to me that if JD flips 3p, we can probably rely on his information of Ex and funnier being mafia.
He's confirmed to be 3P survivor by Zinger. Although we don't know if that's what he told Zinger, of if that's something Zinger's role found out. For now I'd believe a Survivor claim.

If he's telling the truth about being Lovers then he's just trying to take someone down with him. And if he's not he's just trying to buy more time.

Alternatively, KoD lied to him to cause mislynches even after his death.


I missed that Zinger was claiming that. That kindof changes my feelings about it.

I can't argue with Tevish's value analysis. I can agree in principle to an Ex lynch, but I'm not really that eager to jump right on a bandwagon though, since the day has just started, and I want to tease out some other things. If JD is still alive tomorrow though, I think he needs to be lynched immediately.

@funnier: I seem to remember that you had claimed that if you used your kill, bad things would happen. Is this true? If so, when you killed previous Naga, what bad things happened?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:24 pm 
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@funnier: I seem to remember that you had claimed that if you used your kill, bad things would happen. Is this true? If so, when you killed previous Naga, what bad things happened?
If he used his "Innocent Child", not his kill.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:27 pm 
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I killed more scum than the entire town combined and they say they lose less by lynching me
I'm kinda offended, not gonna lie


Uh, only 2 mafia have died and town killed one of them. So how exactly did you kill more?

@Naga, yeah that's what I thought your role was.

It partially failed on Freddeh n1 because of my delay on him. I then used the capture ability I got from dating Aaarrggh on Freddeh n2 because I thought mafia might have targetted him and was gonna steal the kill. But I only got the anonymous gift ability from it. Seeing as PK was the only one that didn't reveal anything about her role I assumed it might be her but wasn't 100% sure.

I went ahead and used the anonymous gift on Freddeh the next night because I figured I wouldn't interfere there and just let it go to the original target. However, I only knew that it was a toy that would be gifted anonymously and the receiver could regift it either anonymously or directly. So I dunno if Freddeh can't target me now since I redirected it back to him or if it still counts for you.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:40 pm 
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I killed more scum than the entire town combined and they say they lose less by lynching me
I'm kinda offended, not gonna lie

You have yourself claimed to be a survivor. A survivor doesn't care if scum wins or town, and is thus a liability in the endgame, a sort of half-scum.

By your claim, yellow town would be legit town. So if JD is lying and we don't lynch JD today (because he will automatically be outed by failing to die), we can lynch you and lose a survivor or lynch funnier and lose town.

As town, I will always prefer losing a survivor to losing town. It's just good business. Similarly, leaving JD alive when his lying or not lying will be clear cut soon enough is even safer and more obvious than leaving you alive yesterday was. Naturally, if JD is alive tomorrow, he needs to be lynched hard for malicious lying but that's the proper time to lynch him.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:50 pm 
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Minish wrote:
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I killed more scum than the entire town combined and they say they lose less by lynching me
I'm kinda offended, not gonna lie


Uh, only 2 mafia have died and town killed one of them. So how exactly did you kill more?

A survivor lover that can only win with Mafia is scum. I didn't say Mafia.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:57 pm 
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Vote Count
Exlight (1) - Tevish
Not Voting (7) - Naga, Freddeh, Aaarrrgh, JD, Exlight, Funnier, Minish

Crystal Skeleton Vote Count
Not Voting (8) - Everyone


This count should be accurate but let me know if it isn't

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:14 pm 
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_ExLight wrote:
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I killed more scum than the entire town combined and they say they lose less by lynching me
I'm kinda offended, not gonna lie


Uh, only 2 mafia have died and town killed one of them. So how exactly did you kill more?

A survivor lover that can only win with Mafia is scum. I didn't say Mafia.


He can't only win with mafia.
If KoD was the last mafia killed he would win with town.

And by that case you're also scum if you're Survivor. Also you don't really get to brag about killing JD because that wasn't on purpose. So if you wanted to work with town bragging about killing more scum when you really got lucky with JD's death isn't a great look.

Also you kinda admitted you know that JD is telling the truth about dying today. Which could be because KoD told you he would. Like you're not even entertaining the idea he's lying about that.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:29 pm 
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Do you really think he would kill KoD to win with town? lmao
Judging by the votes in the other days and him trying to not vote me it's pretty clear that by voting together they could have a power of 3.5 votes. They could outnumber 3 town even if they were the only two threats remaining, he would never work with us if they he really trusted KoD like he's saying.

And no. I'm not playing against town, so I'm not scum.

I'm assuming he's telling the truth about being lovers because he has no reason to lie. It makes way more sense than that Bodyguard nonsense he was saying D2.
I mean what's the point about lying something like that? It makes more sense that he's being played with.


Although he IS lying about some bits. He said that KoD vanillized whoever killed him. If that's the case, why didn't he tell town who the entire scum team was D2, then asked us to allow him to hammer KoD? It would nullify his lover role and we would win the game easy and quickly.

And if KoD could pick any person after he died, then, well. This is proof that KoD betrayed him instead of saving him since he could've vanillized him. Not sure why he would trust the lies of someone that could've allegedly saved him but decided to drag him together to the grave, probably to not give town more extra vote power.

In any case, the fact he's being incoherent because this vanillizing thing is a lie. What happened to me was something completely different and I think he's just trying to bait it out at this point because that would make KoD's plan work perfectly.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:18 pm 
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Ragnarokio wrote:
Vote Count
Exlight (1) - Tevish
Not Voting (7) - Naga, Freddeh, Aaarrrgh, JD, Exlight, Funnier, Minish

Crystal Skeleton Vote Count
Not Voting (8) - Everyone


This count should be accurate but let me know if it isn't

Remind us who's eligible to stand for the Crystal Skeleton today?

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Sup Ex. Sup Funsie. Sup everybody that isn't the mafia.

Rookie mistake killing KoD and leaving his 3p partner alive. Because now I get to drop truth bombs and ruin your lives. :laugh:

So here's everything you lot need to know:

I've known KoD was scum since Night 1 (officially). Originally he tried to play it as town but when I started on the SMS trail day 1 he recommended I not pick fights with SMS. I think at that point he fully leaned into my 3p'ness and wasn't worried about revealing himself because of "A World Not Worth Living In". This aspect of our role is a delayed lover effect. Since KoD is dead, I won't live past today. It also incentivized me to keep KoD alive to be able to reach my survivor win con. During that night SMS and Funsie decided to enact a plan where they would use SMS's kill and just hide behind his limited invulnerability and miller claim. KoD disagreed with that strategy and recruited me during day 2 to bus SMS with him. I set Zinger on the trail of SMS hoping he'd hound him non stop and spread it around that SMS was scum while KoD attacked in thread. To that end we soft picked on Funsie because of the 24 hour comment, thinking SMS and him were collaborating behind KoD's back. The actual SMS lynch on day 2 was sheer luck by town, although I'm sure it would have happened day 3 anyways.

The next day saw Ex rez into the mafia team, sans all his original abilities and with a nifty new NK. An aside on the scum team, each member has their own kill with the caveat that only one of them can be used at a time. Night 1 had no kill because they decided to use SMS's kill. Night 2 the mafia kill was Naga via Funsie. Night 3's Amber kill I suspect was KoD since he asked me who I would kill as scum, to which I replied that PaK or Amber would be a good informationless kill. Night 4 Ex exercised his new kill to off his own teammate for town pants. But we're getting off track here.

So the unease in the mafia team settled for a moment day 3, with KoD focused on mislynching HW, Ex establishing his self survivor clause, and Funsie just kinda existing. But then Day 3.2 Ex went back to his Zinger fear mongering which resulted in KoD deciding to play off of him. Ex went a little wild on the OMGUS to the point you can see Funsie basically tell him to check himself in thread and this resulted in the Mafia fully fracturing during the day with KoD determined to lynch Ex and Ex just trying to survive to night so he could kill KoD.

That's the basic gist of the haps. The only other things to cover are yellow town. There were supposedly only two. I can't speak for CL, but Funsie's flavor is that he's basically a lyncher that sided with mafia to achieve that end, with his win con tied to them as well. Would suspect he's got a WWLI type of clause in addition to that con for the lyncher aspect.

Whether town decides to believe this today or not is irrelevant. They have the keys to the kingdom now and when I die and flip 3p you'll know I have no reason to lie, having already lost the game.

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The mafia team

Consisting of one third party and one resurrected third party

Decided to kill off

The third actually a mafia member

With the mafia factional night kill

Somehow

Because they thought winning the game the next day would be too easy and ya know what’s the big deal about winning the game anyway


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:08 am 
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I'm fine just lynching Funnier today and then seeing what JD flips as. Funnier is claimed Town and his roleclaim feels like crap and hes not in town poe atm.

@Naga: I did get a gift but I didn't send it anywhere, you need me to send it to get the rest of your role to work or something?


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I didn't get that gift until like night 3 though O.o.


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I didn't get that gift until like night 3 though O.o.
Minish must've protected you twice in a row
are you guys even paying attention to the game smh


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lmao, is that what he told you? I had 3 abilities after I got resurrected and I still have access two of them.
What about vote modifiers and and role modifiers? Did he tell you about those?


Nope, that's what you told town after your resurrection:

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Oh, btw, some of my role got nerfed, I had stuff like cop shots and day vigi kills that I could use by consuming mana, now they're all gone except for the banishment ritual and another thingie. Maybe because now I'm a decaying zombie missing an arm and half a brain.


Your exact words Mr "I'm working with town". You had banishment and another thingie. You can't banish because you don't have mana. You claimed play dead and that you can't use that again consecutively, not that you can prove that one again anyways because you'll just say "Mafia didn't hit me!". But this exercise in showing everybody that Ex is lying scum ready to stab them in the back was super easy, thanks for being a good sport!

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I didn't get that gift until like night 3 though O.o.
Minish must've protected you twice in a row
are you guys even paying attention to the game smh


She didn't. Are you even paying attention?

Night 1 she delayed.
Night 2 she captured. Took the gift on to herself.
Night 3 she opted to send it back on it's way to Fred, which is why he got it night 3.

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I know that lynching ex would be the right move here, but I also hate killing someone when the rain were killing them is almost certainly just a grudge from a lying player with no motivation to help town, especially since I feel that survivors should at least be given a chance to win.

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The people eligible for today's Crystal Skeleton Contest are Naga, Exlight, JD, and Funnier

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