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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:17 pm 
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Yeah, just checking to see if you got scum buddies on your wagon.

It's likely that there's scum on my wagon, but they're certainly not my buddies.


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OK, might as well be open, since I'm in the public eye anyway: I am currently self aligned, but once I choose a spouse I will take on their alignment. And as I'm currently operating under the assumption that I will marry a Townie, I'll be operating as though I'm Town aligned.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:21 pm 
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Do you become lovers or something if you marry them?

Otherwise I might be okay marrying you and then getting killed or killing whoever is chosen as your spouse to confirm your alignment or killing you to confirm their alignment.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:31 pm 
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Do you become lovers or something if you marry them?

Otherwise I might be okay marrying you and then getting killed or killing whoever is chosen as your spouse to confirm your alignment or killing you to confirm their alignment.

This actually might not be a bad idea tbh.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:33 pm 
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@Amber: Tevish's countdown is 4 days away. Why bother being concerned when we don't know anything else about it and it isn't close? You're welcome to actually inquire about it to him as opposed to waving your hands over it.

it's not anything we'd expect to see normally, and i wasn't sure if anyone else had pointed it out

@tevish anything you can tell us about the countdown or

I'm counting down to the deadline as given by the mod, that's all. The lynch deadline, to be specific; CS deadline was 24 hours earlier. I might be 1 hour off thanks to Daylight Savings Time


@KoD: I'm not particularly wedded (pun intended) to voting Funnier towards the Crystal Skeleton date, but I wanted a competing CS-Wagon to Rubik's and knew funnier had at least one vote. Plus, he hadn't really tripped any scummy feelings for me. Far too early to say he really "reads as town" especially when I don't know his playstyle, but close enough for present CS-voting needs

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Having quickly read over the last few pages, I'm very tempted to jump on the HW wagon. It honestly baffles me that someone in an online mafia game, which is nothing but reading, and is best solved by careful reading, would voice a disinterest in reading and hostility to writing.

Players should explain their reads and their reasoning in detail. That way, we can go back and analyze those details in the light of new developments. Single sentence soundbite posts aren't nearly as useful for town because they don't give us half as much insignt into the thoughts and feelings of the poster involved. They don't cause scum to have to find a plausible excuse for their behavior, don't give us material for cross-examination, don't allow us to find half as many contradictions or fallacies... you get the idea. They're better than lurking, but more should be encouraged, not discouraged.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:39 pm 
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Rubik wrote:
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I'm only into the skeleton because they promised mechanical benefits.

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You seem scummy to me because you feel different from the other games I've played with you, in which you were town.

Expand on these differences, I only see positive ones and I’m certainly not scum reading him for them
I feel like there's kind of a cockiness to his posts today and he's usually a bit more timid with occasionally spurts of boldness.

I feel like the fact that Ex finally rolled scum and won with it by hiding behind his normal scumminess made him feel invincible and now it's carrying over and he thinks he can cause a mislynch on me and get away with it.

CS Vote: Minish

I have no interest in dating the skeleton if people are opposed to it.


Very unlikely. He didnt "finally" win as scum he won both his real scum games back to back after getting meme lynched in his first scum game. I hosted one of those and I can tell you that isn't remotely as bold as his scum game is lol. In the way that you mean that is.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:40 pm 
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Aaarrrgh wrote:
OK, might as well be open, since I'm in the public eye anyway: I am currently self aligned, but once I choose a spouse I will take on their alignment. And as I'm currently operating under the assumption that I will marry a Townie, I'll be operating as though I'm Town aligned.


Is this separate from the advantage?

Also that's helpful to know because if you somehow ended up marrying mafia and one of you died we'd know someone else was mafia for sure too.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:46 pm 
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I think Rubik isn't a great lynch. Sure everyone seeing him at night isn't exactly AI, but I feel like he stands out so much because of that an everything that if he is scum it will become apparent. But I just feel he's town which is weird because he's always scum. Haha.


Also @Rubik, can you tell me anything about Tevish, Naga, and Hello World regarding meta? Or anything you think would be important? Do any of those 3 pique your interest in any way so far?
I've played literally one game with Naga they seem about the same as usual.

I just played a game with Tevish and the last game before that was probably over a year ago and I feel like any feelings I have of him being scum could just be leftover from the last game so I'll let those simmer for the time being.

HW is an enigma.

Tbh I mostly don't play using playstyle reads of specific players unless they have pretty clear differences in play (like Rag) and I feel like Px2 has a strong enough scum game that I can't construct individual playstyle breakdowns for everyone without going insane in the process.

ZD has a handful of people I can attribute a few AI playstyle things to (Funnier and Minish included, potentially Ex depending on if I'm right about how scum style, not SMS).

And in a game like this where our roles might do some pretty wacky stuff, I feel like people are going to play a bit differently than usual to some extent.

I'm sure you've told me already but I'm curious what you think is AI about me, also yeah I can pretty much tell you I'm taking this game a lot less seriously. This sort of feels like a meme game


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:49 pm 
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Weighing in, I have to agree that not wanting to read in a Mafia game is definitely not a productive mindset at all. I don't mind policy lynching someone with that mindset since it can only be detrimental for Town. So HW could end up getting my vote today unless they put more effort in. The Day has only just begun afterall.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:51 pm 
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I'm only into the skeleton because they promised mechanical benefits.

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You seem scummy to me because you feel different from the other games I've played with you, in which you were town.

Okay, I'm reading through the thread and this does stick out to me. Exlight typically gets thrown into the Day 1 lynch pool, lol. While I've never seen his scum play, I wouldn't go as far as to say his current play isn't in line with how he normally plays as Town. I recall a few games where he was accused of fishing for power roles but turned out to be Town. Matter of fact I'd say either in the ZD Bulbagarden Crossover or during Anime Mafia this same accusation was tossed out.

Anyway, I need to read throught a few more pages of the game, but I wanted to address this.

Sms I am in no way caught up but can you explain your current vote or lack thereof lol


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*Squints eyes at ExLight.*

Hey, HW, you should talk more. You may not be interested in reading my stuff, but others have been talking. My posts don't compare with the amount of content everyone else has combined.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:55 pm 
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1.) Minish breadcrumbing IC?

2.) Tevish and Minish back and forth over Minish's IC post.

3.) Knee-jerk reaction to anyone who suggests themself for dating the CS is negative. Just because I am incapable of trust.

4.) Minish suggest himself as well. So that's both Rubik and Minish that earn a nope from me. Potential CS sheep from Minish on Rubik spotted.

Side Note: Kind-hearted people think about others before themself.

5.) Just because a person is mentioned as being [insert special name] doesn't mean their alignment is tied to it/confirmed/w/e. Assumptions are bad mmmkay (I'm looking at you ExLight).


Page 4 now.

How do you even think Minish softing IC Does that like even happen

Are you saying you dont want to date the skeleton

Minish is a girl


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:57 pm 
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The only reason I was trying to rush a CS Vote was because I was hoping it could be hammered. If it can't, then I don't have any interest in being the dater unless the skeleton decides they're into giants.

Sure I wouldn't mind being friends with mechanical benefits, but I'm not sure my character is the best person to settle down with. Not really that much depth to him.

CS Vote: KoD

Why KoD


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:05 pm 
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I'm only into the skeleton because they promised mechanical benefits.

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You seem scummy to me because you feel different from the other games I've played with you, in which you were town.

Okay, I'm reading through the thread and this does stick out to me. Exlight typically gets thrown into the Day 1 lynch pool, lol. While I've never seen his scum play, I wouldn't go as far as to say his current play isn't in line with how he normally plays as Town. I recall a few games where he was accused of fishing for power roles but turned out to be Town. Matter of fact I'd say either in the ZD Bulbagarden Crossover or during Anime Mafia this same accusation was tossed out.

Anyway, I need to read throught a few more pages of the game, but I wanted to address this.

Sms I am in no way caught up but can you explain your current vote or lack thereof lol

I'm not voting yet, I'm considering pushing HW.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:07 pm 
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Is HW someone who gets lynched a lot? Like I get not liking that he said he hasn't read some posts (because I really dislike that as well). But I feel like that means he's potentially someone who is easily mislynched so it would be pretty simple for scum to push him today.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:14 pm 
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Is HW someone who gets lynched a lot? Like I get not liking that he said he hasn't read some posts (because I really dislike that as well). But I feel like that means he's potentially someone who is easily mislynched so it would be pretty simple for scum to push him today.

I'd like to think any of the regular players would have mentioned this by now if it was a common thing.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:15 pm 
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HW’s case is weak.

KoD, so you agree with me but decides to follow Rubik just because he said he isn’t desperate to date Aaaargh? Really? What did you expect him to say? “Yes, I’m desperate to get this power-up as soon as possible in a suspicious manner”? If he’s scum, even if he’s fine with not getting it there are other 2-3 scumbuddies that he can support.

About the lover speculation, Aaargh said he was an immortal being, if that was role related then that could mean one of the two things: he’s deathproof and noone become lovers; or he’s mostly deathproof but dies to a Lover kill.


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The only reason I was trying to rush a CS Vote was because I was hoping it could be hammered. If it can't, then I don't have any interest in being the dater unless the skeleton decides they're into giants.

Sure I wouldn't mind being friends with mechanical benefits, but I'm not sure my character is the best person to settle down with. Not really that much depth to him.

CS Vote: KoD

Why KoD

Because KoD is protecting Rubik.

And lmao did you remove your vote on me to OMGUS, KoD? c’mon fite me


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HW knows better. Using me as an excuse to not read is not excusable.

I am not an excuse.

@ExLight:

I don't agree with anything you're saying.

Specifically, if you keep everything lined up when addressing thoughts, I'm following Rubik wrt to you because you jumping him about his role was scummy. As far as Rubik wanting the CS to date him, that progression, for me, is at a point where Rubik comes off more as townie to me than as scummy (especially if we're using you as the bar for scummy if you know what I mean). If you think Rubik is scum (which I assume would revolve around his role as that is what you attacked him over) that's your thing. Not mine.


@funnier:

What exactly are you asking me with that first thought? Because my thought on Minish revolves around that particular post Minish made, as I've already stated. Whether or not Minish is truly an IC is something for another time as there is nothing else to go on (indeed if anything even happens as, again, it was a knee-jerk reaction to her post).

If other people nominate me for the CS, that's one thing. Me putting myself out there is another. My CS vote is already on JD though (and truly he deserves it anyway).

Duly noted.


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Wouldn't it be OMGUS if he voted me, then I voted him in response? Because that's not what happened. You'd know that from reading the posts.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:30 pm 
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1.) Minish breadcrumbing IC?

2.) Tevish and Minish back and forth over Minish's IC post.

3.) Knee-jerk reaction to anyone who suggests themself for dating the CS is negative. Just because I am incapable of trust.

4.) Minish suggest himself as well. So that's both Rubik and Minish that earn a nope from me. Potential CS sheep from Minish on Rubik spotted.

Side Note: Kind-hearted people think about others before themself.

5.) Just because a person is mentioned as being [insert special name] doesn't mean their alignment is tied to it/confirmed/w/e. Assumptions are bad mmmkay (I'm looking at you ExLight).


Page 4 now.


How can I be breadcrumbing IC? Y'all would know if I were because it'd be announced.

Also do you not expect town to advocate themselves to date CS? The only person you can trust as town is yourself this early. And we don't want mafia to get it so it'd be a shot in the dark to suggest someone else. Rubik hosted a Smash Bros game recently on ZD where someone was voted to use their final Smash and I absolutely advocated for myself. Granted that was on day 3 where people had better reads but still.

What do you mean by potential CS sheep? If you mean my vote for Rubik it's because I felt he and I would be good contenders as the top 2 votes. If you mean us both suggesting ourselves, then I literally did so in my first post. I didn't outright tell people to vote for me then, but I did talk about how we would be a good match.

I think their ICs are the type that dont get announced until they tell the mod to announce it.

Also is there any particular reason you think youre a good candidate or you just wanna date a skeleton lol


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