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We can't have too many nice things in a row...

I have an idea for a M:EM HS story, but it's rather grimdark, and while we explored unpleasant things in the character's backstories, I don't think we got into portraying heavy stuff in this thread, and I'm not sure I should post it, at least in this topic. (maybe in the Suppose Prose to put a distance layer to it?) I'm talking about characters trying to really hurt each other, for reasons that are (I think) completely in character even for their High School versions. Let's say I'd like to put the work into the "maybe" category of canon even within the HS storyline, to mean that others (even me) could just decide the events within never happened for their future works.

I'll put the content warnings in spoiler here if people want to give a more informed opinion. Bonus points if you guess what the story is about.
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We can't have too many nice things in a row...

I have an idea for a M:EM HS story, but it's rather grimdark, and while we explored unpleasant things in the character's backstories, I don't think we got into portraying heavy stuff in this thread, and I'm not sure I should post it, at least in this topic. (maybe in the Suppose Prose to put a distance layer to it?) I'm talking about characters trying to really hurt each other, for reasons that are (I think) completely in character even for their High School versions. Let's say I'd like to put the work into the "maybe" category of canon even within the HS storyline, to mean that others (even me) could just decide the events within never happened for their future works.

I'll put the content warnings in spoiler here if people want to give a more informed opinion. Bonus points if you guess what the story is about.
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I mean, to a point, you should feel free to post whatever you want. My personal tastes do not, typically, gravitate towards grimdark, but sadly, to suggest that issues like those in your spoiler don't exist in high school settings would be profoundly naïve. Further, the High School canon is already pretty shakey to begin with. While I have a tendency to incorporate facts or events from other stories in this thread, I would also have no problem with just dropping Denner into a story despite the fact that we have two stories here where he is established as "expelled." So I'm really not too concerned with continuity.

So if you want to write a post a dark story, go for it. For the benefit of those it might legitimately trigger, I would suggest suppling the trigger warnings that we tend to anyway, but personally, I see no problem in posting it.


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 Post subject: Re: M:EM High School
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As I warned, this won't be nice.

suppose a grimdark turn pt.1

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 Post subject: Re: M:EM High School
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(I just noticed the SFJ story states both Daneera and Aloise are club presidents?)

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 Post subject: Re: M:EM High School
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(spoilers for Suppose a Grimdark Turn)
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-Orida's shirt celebrates the album VIXI (stilized as Roman numerals for the XVII anagram) by the fictional group Deaf Eternity; I'm sure The Clapper has some history.
-From New Look we know Tryst looks grown up enough to casually hang around rather dangerous biker gangs, so I went for a rather adult look. Ah, yes, that's a Bad Dragon crop top (ironic or not, it's not for me to say, though I wonder what Sharaka and Morgezka think of it); if you don't know what that is, I warn you it's going to be a rather nsfw Google search.

EDIT: Since this thread is reaching a significant size, finding specific stories takes some time, so here's a list of links to ease navigation, with relative character lists in order of appearance (bracketed names mean important info is revealed about them, but the characters don't appear in person)

[Untitled]: An introduction. [Daneera, Aloise, (Beryl), (Kerik), Sharaka]

Hot Topic: Fashion tips from style incarnate, Miss DeCoeur. [Jackie, Aloise, Beryl]

Changing Heart: Sharaka's turbulent backstory. [Sharaka, Daneera, (Dorn), Fisco, Aloise, Beryl, (Rulus)]

Lunchtime Practice Games: A vignette of the Chess Club. [Donagut, Denner, Vasilias, Shifter]

[Untitled]: Antine is too trusting for his own good... [Rulus, Antine]
->[Untitled follow-up]: Fortunately, it's time for Antine to get a good break. [Antine, Jackie, Rulus, Mari]
->[Untitled follow-up]: Poetic or not, some new romance buds in the M:EM HS... [Aria, Raiker, Lourima, Mari, (Antine)]

Detention: Jackie is a detention artist, and needs a final masterpiece for her gallery... [Jackie, Fisco, Daneera]

[Untitled]: Sharaka's contraband magazines shed new light on a certain student... [Sharaka, Kimberley, Tryst, Kahr, Ellia, Raiker]

Cheating Time: Denner is asked to help Alessa cheat in a test. Will he do it? [Denner, Alessa]

[Untitled]: Jackie's glasses are broken, and Scar seems the prime suspect. There's trouble ahead... [Jackie, Scar, Jade, Rulus]

[Untitled]: The Rulus twins keep being themselves, and is Beryl's turn to be a target; Daneera, however, has had enough of them. [Beryl, Aloise, (Rulus), (Thorneau students), Daneera]

Ghoul in the School: The undead haunt the school! Fortunately, there's a brave team of sleuths to solve the case. [Morgan, Larasa, Lumina, Denner, Donagut, Raleris, Shifter]

S.F.J., part 1: Some students have had enough: the Rulus twins must be stopped! But not everyone's on the same page... [Aloise, Tryst, Daneera, Beryl, Lumina, Jackie, Alessa]
->After Credits: Sharaka wanted to join too, but was held back... [Daneera, Sharaka, Dantalion]

[Untitled]: It's time to practice for the Homecoming talent show! Daneera isn't convinced, though. [Daneera, Kahr, Hush-Hush, Gale, Tryst]

New Look: After a harsh break-up, Lukas is looking for new companies... [Lukas, Tryst]

[Untitled]: Gale's sad song brings a tale of missed chances to our ears. [Daneera, Gale, (Denner), Antine]

Fractions: Aloise has made a deal with a bush. Or someone hiding in a bush? What are they hiding? [Aloise, Jackie]

[Untitled]: Antine is in trouble! Fortunately, he has a very simple plan in mind... [Antine, Beryl, Aloise, Mari]

[Untitled]: Daneera's idea of camping doesn't match the school's, and trouble has arisen. The absence of a student acquires a mysterious side... [Daneera, Nasina, (Morgezka), (Denner)]

Death of a Sailsman (act 1, act 2): Antony knows well the hardships every visionary must suffer, but Art is a cause worthy enough. Maybe. [Antony, Kahr, Aloise, Beryl, Gale, Tryst, Liar, Raiker]

[Untitled]: Daneera surprises Kerik with a visit, unaware they're both going to be surprised... [Daneera, Kerik, Raiker]

[Untitled]: It's Sharaka's time to be called in Lady Nasina's office. [Nasina, Sharaka, (Elphimas)]

Seeing Through: Sharaka has a giant crush on a certain teacher, but subtlety isn't exactly her strong suit... [Sharaka, Mattias, Maral, Tryst]

How Do You Do It?: Scar asks Beryl for advice, though Beryl might be less qualified than expected... [Scar, Beryl]

Suppose a Grimdark Turn (pt.1, pt.2): Suppose the Rulus decided to take an interest in the SFJ... Warning: a not-necessarily-"canon" dark chapter of the SFJ storyline. [Sharaka, Rulus, (Dorn), The SFJ group, Elphimas]

(Raven, feel free to add this to one of the first posts with any edits you deem appropriate)

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 Post subject: Re: M:EM High School
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(Raven, feel free to add this to one of the first posts with any edits you deem appropriate)

As luck would have it, I left one post, soft deleted, right after the faculty list at the beginning, which would be the perfect place for this. I'll edit in your table of contents and undelete the post here in a moment.

Thanks for the work, Huey!


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And the table of contents is up. I had noticed before how many of these pieces I had left untitled, but it really stands out seeing the full list here. I'm not entirely sure why I neglected to title so many of them, but there it is.


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I had noticed before how many of these pieces I had left untitled, but it really stands out seeing the full list here. I'm not entirely sure why I neglected to title so many of them, but there it is.

Nothing is stopping you from giving them a title now, y'know? :D

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@grimdark: That's some heavy stuff, but it's also very good. I like the relationships you're building.

Regarding jokes in tense situations I agree that it could be effective if you were able to do it right, but it would also definitely be a thing you could easily get wrong, so leaving it out is probably the wise decision. Unless you want to have to waver and struggle and rewrite a single line repeatedly. You might be the kind of person who would enjoy that, what do I know?

On another, but unrelated note: I have been toying with the idea of properly introducing Tey'von to the High School, but my idea for doing so included something that I'm somewhat concerned about from a narrative standpoint:
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@Huey: All the talk of the table of contents made me forget to comment on your sketches! Sorry about that. I really like these. Orida's a lot of fun, and I love that she has a wooden bat with "The Clapper" carved into it. Angst incarnate, is our little foul-mouthed friend. I also think that you got HS Tryst down really well; the flirtatious pose fits with the character we've sort of established, and the second drawing of her, at the hospital glass, shows the underlying depth of her character. And of course, bandaged-up Sharaka is properly heartbreaking.

Thanks for posting these, Huey!

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On another, but unrelated note: I have been toying with the idea of properly introducing Tey'von to the High School, but my idea for doing so included something that I'm somewhat concerned about from a narrative standpoint:
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@grimdark: That's some heavy stuff, but it's also very good. I like the relationships you're building.

Thanks! I still have to learn how to deepen or portray relationships without massive trauma, but at least I know how to do that :D

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Unless you want to have to waver and struggle and rewrite a single line repeatedly. You might be the kind of person who would enjoy that, what do I know?

I'm prone to that, but I don't especially enjoy it :V

@Raven: thank you for the kind comments!

I'm glad you both liked my take on Tryst! I started to really like her when I was writing her PoV, even if I was mainly coming up with backstory out of nothing since her character prompt (Horny Girl, so some kind of young succubus in style if not substance) interacts kinda weirdly with what we know of her canon backstory. The hints I left around is that she's friends with Sharaka since middle school, when she was an outcast targeted by the Rulus' lackeys, so it's likely Tryst was an outcast too around that period (reinforced by the parallel with canon where her parentage cause her to be often met with mistrust), and the strong emotions Tryst feels in the piece points at theirs being a strong relationship, maybe started with Tryst offering companionship to a cornered Sharaka and Sharaka being accepting (and maybe even appreciative) of Tryst's stigmatized traits.

By the way, I noticed way late that all the members of the SFJ are girls :V

About Tey'von and Denner: in addition to Raven's point about multiple conflicting storylines with the same canonicity, I'd like to point out that the Rulus are canonically responsible for Denner's fate, and I like AUs that keep as many canon traits and/or plotlines as possible, especially if cleverly adapted to a deeply different setting; that's the reason why I like New Look a lot.

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I'm glad you both liked my take on Tryst! I started to really like her when I was writing her PoV, even if I was mainly coming up with backstory out of nothing since her character prompt (Horny Girl, so some kind of young succubus in style if not substance) interacts kinda weirdly with what we know of her canon backstory. The hints I left around is that she's friends with Sharaka since middle school, when she was an outcast targeted by the Rulus' lackeys, so it's likely Tryst was an outcast too around that period (reinforced by the parallel with canon where her parentage cause her to be often met with mistrust), and the strong emotions Tryst feels in the piece points at theirs being a strong relationship, maybe started with Tryst offering companionship to a cornered Sharaka and Sharaka being accepting (and maybe even appreciative) of Tryst's stigmatized traits.

Yeah, Orcish has mentioned before how ironic it is that HS Tryst is basically the polar opposite of canon Tryst, and it's literally all predicated on the pun based on her horns. But she does provide that level of crass, High School immaturity that is just priceless in this sort of AU.

By the way, I noticed way late that all the members of the SFJ are girls :V

That is interesting. I imagine Denner and Kahr would have been involved in one way or another, and maybe Lukas if he wasn't busy. But in terms of that first meeting, a girls group seems to be the thing.

About Tey'von and Denner: in addition to Raven's point about multiple conflicting storylines with the same canonicity, I'd like to point out that the Rulus are canonically responsible for Denner's fate, and I like AUs that keep as many canon traits and/or plotlines as possible, especially if cleverly adapted to a deeply different setting; that's the reason why I like New Look a lot.

Those are really fun. :V


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Very nice, Huey. I particularly love the comic strip style storytelling of the Antine piece, and now I really want an M:EM High School comic strip (although, knowing the work that would go into it, I would never actually ask for it). I'd love to hear more about the scene in the lower left, too.

Thanks for post, Huey! Cool stuff as usual.


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The idea for Antine's swimsuit was prompted by Raven. I think Tryst and Sharaka came up with a bunch of nicknames for the others; Sharaka mostly uses them when talking with her friend, while Tryst uses them as both terms of endearment and idle teasing. Here's a few of them:

Sharaka: Shaka (traditional viashino nickname, also canon)
Tryst: Thirsty (only in private or with other close friends)
Beryl: Hotbuns
Aloise: Sweetbuns
Antine: Foxy Boy
Daneera: Gigi (from Green Girl)
Orida: Sunshine or Tack (short and metal)

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