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Flavor text shows how a single quote from a random character can be very interesting on its own. Sometimes, a single dialogue or scenery description is enough to satisfy a reader without further context. But there are people who search "top 10 anime fights" on Youtube, follow WWE, go to live matches and/or practice various martial arts, or start/join bar brawls. (of course, some of these behaviors are more reprehensible than others. **** weebs.)

Because sometimes, a good fight is just what you need.

So this is the place where we can tell each other stories of great fights: no need for preambles, two (or more?) characters get thrown at each other and sparks come out. My first contribution is a bit of an exercise to get a feel for a a new character and an old (kinda) villain and test a format.

Please enjoy my little experiment!

moonlight at noon: xant vs amaruo (around 2.2k words)

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Fun idea. Good fight scenes are always enjoyable, and considering we are expanding on a game world based on a card game based on fights, it makes a lot of sense.

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Thank you for reading and commenting! I hope to exchange many stories of glorious battle around this campfire :D

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If anyone has the feeling a certain couple or group of character would make for a nice brawl, feel free to suggest it here! Even this isn't exactly the Gauntlet thread, the possibilities might spark ideas in some of us, and I feel like this thread has a rather pulpy specialization that warrants the distinction :)

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If anyone has the feeling a certain couple or group of character would make for a nice brawl, feel free to suggest it here! Even this isn't exactly the Gauntlet thread, the possibilities might spark ideas in some of us, and I feel like this thread has a rather pulpy specialization that warrants the distinction :)

Alright, Sharaka vs Kahr-ret-Taris. It can be an all-out fight, a sparring match, or a high school AU wrestling match, or whatever you want.


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If anyone has the feeling a certain couple or group of character would make for a nice brawl, feel free to suggest it here! Even this isn't exactly the Gauntlet thread, the possibilities might spark ideas in some of us, and I feel like this thread has a rather pulpy specialization that warrants the distinction :)

Alright, Sharaka vs Kahr-ret-Taris. It can be an all-out fight, a sparring match, or a high school AU wrestling match, or whatever you want.

I had thought of that particular match, you know? But I haven't gathered all the material I need yet.

EDIT: The pdf from the feature release is a godsend to find all the fights Kahr has been part of. Though I must admit, the level of arcane power he exhibits is frightening, and I wonder whether I can possibly portray the match as even. We'll see...

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This is a hasty first try, I might edit it with Raven's input. I warn you, it's rather brutal. Maybe the most brutal fight I written? I also used material it's not currently shared if not for a spoiler in Sharaka's spoilered dossier, so there might be a few surprises.

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I'm still open to suggestions :)

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I glimpsed that similitude when I reread Kahr's fight with Daneera at the beginning at the WotW and compared it with his frightening and versatile displays of power against the Pretender's forces and the demon in The Fallen Pharaoh; Kahr has more experience, raw power and versatile magic, but Sharaka has been specifically trained to exploit viashino's peculiar physique (which I assumed Kahr wasn't familiar with) and to leverage any advantage she can get, meaning that once her opponent is on the defensive she knows how to keep him there. In a fight where Kahr is allowed to self-buff in advance Sharaka is slaughtered or forced to flee within a few trades.

There are Viashino on Arbagoth, albeit in Veretna, but it's likely that Kahr at least knew about their existence. I doubt he ever had much interaction with them, though, and they were likely at least somewhat different from Sharaka physiologically.

I also have some experience in playing that match-up, though on the other side: I like playing midrange in Arena, and I hate Aggro :r: decks with a passion. Not as much as I despise Nexus of Fate, but still. I guess that living the aggro deck's perspective adds a level of empathy I can't feel for burn players :D

This reminds me of the Jaya Ballard quote that Orcish brings up from time to time, from the card Sizzle: "Of course you should fight fire with fire. You should fight everything with fire."

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Add to that the fact that Sharaka came prepared to fight, intent to kill, whereas Kahr did not know he would be receiving visitors that day.

I'm not sure how that affects the fight, considering Kahr's skill; in my head the initial difference is more based on the fighter's mindset and philosophy. While Kahr proves a great leader in the WotW, his "pure" mindset means he's vulnerable to Sharaka's trash-talking, especially when you factor in Sharaka's empathic magic, which we see budding in the stories when she detects the feelings of people with a precision mere smells can't explain.

Yeah, I just mean that she could have been gathering her mana, while Kahr would not have had that opportunity. But like you say, Kahr's pretty much already ready to fight.

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I loved the call-back to Kahr's sacrifice of the Devout. This piece, and your request for info made me go back and reread "The Fallen Pharaoh," which I liked better than I remember liking. Lukas's reaction in that piece to Kahr's sacrifice of Daedis, and even moreso Kahr's reaction to it, is really telling of Kahr's personality, and I love that he's bothered by Sharaka turning it around on him.

Yeah, about their philosophy... Sharaka was taught how to fight and possible die for her people as the ultimate sacrifice; Kahr expects a caste of his own people to give their life for his. (this of course tells a lot about both fighter's self-worth) While they could get along for a while, Sharaka wouldn't be as willing to let the issue go as Lukas is, as that's a very :b: outlook.

I remember Ruwin making a comment once while we were talking about the differences and similarities between Kahr and Jinsen. He said: "I mean, they both have a noble bearing, they both are not averse to warfare, or death. They both understand the responsibility they have to those they have power over. But their methods are so, so, so different. Kahr demands worship. Jinsen shuns praise. Kahr sacrifices others for the greater good, because he understands his importance. Jinsen sacrifices only himself, because he understands his unimportance." I think that is very true of Kahr, and by extension, of the Devout. Humanistically and moralistically, we can balk at both Daedis's sacrifice and Kahr's, shall we say, murder of her. But Kahr was, in fact, the only one who could have killed Zadraphous, and he could only do it with the strength of his youth. Daedis's sacrifice was, in fact, the only chance the humans of Helkavin had.

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And of course, Elphimas is the chilling presence here. In this persona, with that sort of power, they are the one who literally bends the scene around them. I was particularly fond of when Elphimas took out the guards, and basically says, "no, they're not a part of this scene. Okay, take it from the top". The casual cruelty that this Elphimas displays in the way they use Sharaka's past and anger, all to manipulate her into a fight with a powerful battlemage is such a stark contrast to canon Elphimas's relationship with her.

Yeah, writing the Playwright is kinda fun, I guess similar to how you enjoy writing for Raiker. As the canon Elphimas embodies the painful struggle to lead stories to a happy ending, the Playwright is the morbid enjoyment of watching characters crash and burn, no matter if it's catharsis or tragedy. I didn't have the space to put it in, but Elphimas a silver ring with a black opal in it, mirrored in Sharaka's hand, whose functions are very different from the ones that will adorn that couple in canon... :evil:

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I remember Ruwin making a comment once while we were talking about the differences and similarities between Kahr and Jinsen. He said: "I mean, they both have a noble bearing, they both are not averse to warfare, or death. They both understand the responsibility they have to those they have power over. But their methods are so, so, so different. Kahr demands worship. Jinsen shuns praise. Kahr sacrifices others for the greater good, because he understands his importance. Jinsen sacrifices only himself, because he understands his unimportance."

And their mana colors are precisely complementary to boot.

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I haven't written anything in quite a while, so I think I'll just start one out and we'll see where this goes.

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This makes me wonder - not for the first time - how would Dorn vs Sharaka go. To be honest, I knew Kahr would win against her from the start and I only needed an angle to make the fight seem fair, but with these two...

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Nice! I checked to be sure this took place right after the ending of Vows :D Short and punchy (though maybe "shieldy" it's more accurate this time :V), showcasing Dorn's style of combat in a straightforward way that complements the character well.

Yeah, I think about the Karrin Horde and their big, flightless bird mounts from time to time, and I thought this thread would provide a fun little glimpse at Dorn's first moments on Nambru.

About the choreography: I liked a lot the passage when Dorn flings Suurak down from his mount; it's a great moment of turning defense into offense, with the help of a little spell (it looked like a Sanctified Counter-Charge, as the original flavor even references spears :D) for speed.

That's the moment that really sort of crystalized the scene for me and one of the main things that led me to write it.

On the negative side, I admit I had to reread a few times Suurak's tripping maneuver to completely get it; for the speed it must require, spending two sentences describing Dorn's confusion breaks the rhythm a bit, and while it may be unnecessary detail, I'm wondering how exactly he put his hands to his spear to leverage Dorn on his knee. I dunno, I feel like that paragraph can be polished a bit.

Yeah, I'm sure you're right. I didn't proofread this one as thoroughly as I usually do, as it was getting late when I finished it, so I'm sure the whole thing could be cleaned up a bit.

Returning to positives, I had a flashback when I "saw" a spear-wielder jump over a shielded opponent to deliver a killing blow :D The end of the fight is another "defense into offense" moment, which somewhat book-ends the fight.

Attacking Dorn straight ahead seems like a bad idea, especially when you have no magic at your disposal and very little experience. It should be noted that Suurak here had only just gone through his rite of passage into manhood, so he's, what, 14? Maybe 16, depending on the Horde's culture.

About the narrative: From the first paragraph I had assumed Suurak had his pack on his tail for some reason.

I had intended to put a line in there that he had gotten separated from his pack, but apparently, looking over it again, I neglected to do so. Sorry about that.

Dorn tossing Suurak's spear away is a characterizing moment, similar to Kahr dropping Sharaka's axe to pick up the weapon he's most familiar with, with the added layer that he needs to touch his horn to cast and that would be pretty cumbersome with a hand full of spear. The "no, never fear" is an interesting repetition, that gets drastically less believable as the fight goes on. The "something somewhere" is also a very good turn of phrase.

I have to admit, I was very happy with the "no, never fear" recurring bit. The Horde, presumably, has very strong cultural prejudices against showing fear. Suurak is a very young, very inexperienced rider trying to live up to the standards of a warlike people, encountering a pretty terrifying enemy that literally nobody on their plane had ever seen before. Much of his "bravery" here is, I suspect, just bravado because to him, death is preferable to disgrace, which also leads to the "something somewhere" line. Suurak considered both the catfolk's death scream and his own moa's to be disgraceful. So this third scream does not register to him as his own.

About the outcome: Dorn ends the fight without a scratch - except maybe a slight bruise behind a knee - which is easy to believe since Suurak has probably never fought an heavily armored opponent (heavy armors in jungles give very bad problems to anyone that can't withstand a heckton of humid heat on the long run) and he's badly equipped for it. Dorn has two vulnerable targets (head and free hand), but he has probably specifically trained to protect them, and his magically-enhanced strength and resilience put him beyond Suurak's hopes from the start. Apart from the fact Dorn has a piece chronologically placed well after this episode, I wasn't really surprised by the ending, which isn't necessarily a bad thing :D

Yeah, I never intended this to be an even match. Dorn just has nearly all of the advantages here. I had, at once point, considered making Suurak an ascending planeswalker and have this fight be the trigger for his ascension. And while I supposed this story does not make that impossible, it seems like Suurak is just a human (a phrase Dorn would likely use, albeit with a lot more venom). In terms of the armor, I agree that Suurak has likely never seen anything like it. I get the sense that metallurgy on Nambru exists, but is not too advanced (although they could make the Dreamstrider Diadem, so who knows?), especially in the Horde.

This makes me wonder - not for the first time - how would Dorn vs Sharaka go. To be honest, I knew Kahr would win against her from the start and I only needed an angle to make the fight seem fair, but with these two...

You make a lot of good points here, and I agree that it would come down to the reason for the fight in the first place. Dorn is a very solid combatant. Sharaka, to me, reads as a bit more inconsistent in the sense that, the more into the fight she is, the more dangerous she becomes. If it's a "friendly sparring match" between the two (since Dorn would not be immediately hostile toward Sharaka unless she were hanging out with a human at the time) I suspect Dorn wins. If Sharaka is motivated, though? Well, I suspect the bartender will be sending over a Scorch on the Rhox…

...I'm not sorry...

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This makes me wonder - not for the first time - how would Dorn vs Sharaka go. To be honest, I knew Kahr would win against her from the start and I only needed an angle to make the fight seem fair, but with these two...

You make a lot of good points here, and I agree that it would come down to the reason for the fight in the first place.

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I... never said that? :D But you do have a point, so maybe something I said hinted to that.

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to misrepresent your words. I guess I more meant the overall setting of the fight, which would include the "cover-rich environment" you spoke of. My phrasing was poor. Again, I apologize.


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As a perfectionist I get what you're saying, and I hope I'm not making some social faux pas, but there's no need to apologize so much. You, as many around here, have adverse circumstances that make posting harder than usual, and that's fine! Look, I even put I big smile at the end of the sentence to say I didn't mind! :D The misunderstanding is cleared, no harm's done, it's all good in the hood, or whatever Anglo-babbling people say :V

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I tend to agree with Sharaka here: after the first encounter, the minotaur was pretty foolish to try a second one, particularly with so much confidence. It reminds me of a riff from one of my favorite episodes of MST3k: "He has defeated us many times before, what makes him think he can do it again?!?"

I appreciated Sharaka's Kool-Aid Man moment of bursting through the wall. Nice and direct. Her moment of introspection right at the end is nicely done, too.

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I tend to agree with Sharaka here: after the first encounter, the minotaur was pretty foolish to try a second one, particularly with so much confidence. It reminds me of a riff from one of my favorite episodes of MST3k: "He has defeated us many times before, what makes him think he can do it again?!?"

To be honest, if Sharaka just had burst of super-strength the foxfolk would probably have found some opening to lodge a blade in her spine; it sucks for Gore that her flashy table-busting move wasn't her being a show-off, but a tactical display of power to avoid bloodshed.* So while it wasn't certainly wise, it wasn't completely suicidal either.

*As Paragon!Shepard says when mocked for asking a potentially recurring enemy for a truce: "I'm not pleading for my life. I'm pleading for yours."

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I appreciated Sharaka's Kool-Aid Man moment of bursting through the wall. Nice and direct.

I had thought of turn that part into more of a guerrilla, with Sharaka taking out another goon (or Gore) via magic-boosted thrown bottle and luring them in the unknown building to finish them off, but she has faced whole phalanxes of trained and armored humans without magical weapons to support her, so she's rightfully a bit cocky there.

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