Honestly, the only reason I'm not voting you, is because of that lingering doubt that you are town and uber tunneling. I find your plays to be anti-town, but not condemningly scummy.

And what plays would those be Alt? Openly spewing everything concerning my role and my intents? Or when you say "plays" do you mean the arguments I've had where I made mistakes such as with JD when he pointed out my contradicting statements regarding when I was present in the game at the start of D3? Because you haven't been entirely specific on anything other than mentioning Silly and I constantly arguing being detrimental to the town (although why you exclude Silly from this is boggling) and your mention at me having been "caught" (which I assume alludes to JD pointing out my contradicting statements as I mentioned earlier in the post).

Aside from that, what else you got? Because at this point you're seemingly just playing around in the bushes until others aside from JD and Silly support killing me.

When did I exclude Silly?

Is it not obvious from your actions?

I'm pretty sure that you're talking about when I told both of you guys that you are derailing the thread in mindless repetition, and Silly stopped.
Well, Silly slowed to a stop.
Silly mostly yielded.

Which is as good as a stop to a spam artist.

And my actions are interactions, Silly stopped posting aggressively. You, just taking a guess, going out on a limb, haven't. Thus my actions are against you, with none against Silly.

Basically, if you stop, I stop.
If I stop, you stop.

And that right there confirms it for me.

Your whole comment about Silly and I was wrt to the main game thread, but, despite what you maintain, Silly never stopped with pursuing wanting me lynched. Hell, if anything Silly has more spam content than I do since what I post is actually relevant to the game. You defending Silly here just to condemn me shows there is a connection between you and Silly.

That connection is made obvious in hindsight since in the Dungeon you focused strictly on me despite more being against Silly at the time. That is, you mentioned both Silly and I for being "detrimental to the town" yet focus exclusively on me. You profess to trust Silly more than me despite the issue that arose with Silly's alignment/win con when we were arguing it when compared to JD's own claim. And, as a final caveat to all this, despite "trusting" Neo to be more town than both Silly and I, you forgo Neo's own perspective to more or less support Silly as opposed to me.

Comparatively, you've obviously favored Silly for some reason, and I'm convinced that reason is due to you two being mafia.

Here is my defense of Silly. Count how many posts Silly has in the last three pages. Count how many posts you have in the last three pages.
Sorry that I'm defending Silly by pointing out a lack of useless posts.

You are not contributing to the thread, you are responding to me, bringing up misquotes, and misinformation alike. I've been purposefully durdling you to see how far it goes, and because if you are tunneling onto me, you're not skewing the view of other people.

I know that I'm town, and I know at least a few other people know I'm town. I don't care what you say about me, as I know that other people are more likely to ignore it. So I'm durdling with you as much as possible so that you can't create as much misinformation in regards to other people. I'm surprised that you haven't picked up on this yet.

Again, you stop, I stop.

Amount of posts is misleading in the way you are trying to use it.

What I am and have been doing is trying to game solve. As an example of Silly's game solving, he spent the early part of D3 viewing me as town and even went so far as to vote himself before reversing his view of me despite admitting that I am likely town. Unlike me, Silly didn't focus on game solving so much so as "KoD needs to die" for some reasons such as being disruptive to the town, being detrimental to the town, being something to the town.

That's just Silly.

When it comes to actually trying to game solve, you're not doing that either. You're arguing with me, yes, but at no point have I seen you field any reasonable guesses as to who the mafia could be. I've not seen you do anything to progress solving the problem. What I have seen you do is state one opinion on me, switch that opinion, switch it again, then switch it again. Bear in mind I flipped as town initially because, by your words, if I was a different alignment, then I wouldn't have been killed. So unless you're going to sit there and maintain that I have to be mafia, just who are you trying to figure out is mafia? Because as it stands no mafia aligned players have flipped yet.

Speaking of which, you haven't flipped yet nor have you been investigated so the chance you could be part of the mafia is very real. And aside from the claim you made early in the game when you killed me, you have no solid connection be it mechanical or otherwise with another player.


Also why do you keep saying you'll stop if I stop? Do you think that I'll just stop arguing because you say you'll stop? Good luck with that. The only time I stop is when I'm dead.

Minor side note: Does this mean that your whole "I'll stop when you stop" thing is you purposefully being detrimental to the town just like how Silly and I were?

Amount of posts is not misleading as I'm trying to use it, otherwise I wouldn't have used it.
I'm letting other people game solve. Not cuz I'm lazy, but because I'm in the middle of being behind on nanowrimo.
I do little burst here and there which is why I was constantly asking people to be brief, concise, and information. you are the only one who refuses to do that.
Of course I could be mafia. Just because I could be mafia, doesn't mean I am (doesn't mean I'm not either, but that's obvs).
Why, because it's a fun reminder that you are coming up with increasingly spammy posts. I'm responding to you, and you bring out something else, to which I respond, you are the one coming up with this misinformation to which I am responding.
Thus the if you stop I stop.

I've already solved the whole game.

Obv town - silly, rag, alt
Obv scum - JaC, Rubik
More than likely not town anymore - KoD
Obv not town/scum - JD, PaK
More than likely not town/scum - Neo
Hobgoblin - Zinger
Red herring - HW

Lynching accordingly people (accordingly per your win con obv).

@PaK, how many more days until you can secure a majority for three cycles? We'll all just secret win.

you know, arguing with kod is an exercise in futility

but now that im watching somebody else bang their head against the kod wall

it's kind of funny

@alt

wait did you get a message saying that i was protecting you in the dungeon altimis?

zinger never told me that my role informed the person i was protecting that i was protecting them

Amount of posts is misleading in the way you're trying to use it because you are completely disregarding the context for those posts.

And you're letting other people game solve? Like who exaclty? Silly? I'm calling bs on your excuse here because there are examples of other people game solving besides me or even Silly. Clearly you're being obtuse on purpose here since instead of devoting time to actually trying to game solve or read up on other people's posts (like JaC), you're more content to just sit there and argue with me without actually backing up your side. Just those first two sentences demonstrate that something isn't right with you when it comes to pushing a town agenda.

And bs to the whole me refusing to post concise information. You don't get to decide what is "brief" when you're admittedly busy elsewhere and not concerned with what exactly is happening in the game. Case in point: I posted a "brief" intro in the Dungeon on my actions, what was going in in the main game, and what my own intent was based on what I was seeing. And your excuse is that ***I*** refused to be "brief" and "concise".

Here's the thing about you being mafia. Lots of stuff has happened in the game. Lots of people have died. Despite what my current alignment is, no original mafia member has flipped yet. The longer this goes on, the more likely it is that someone that is still left is likely to be mafia. That pool of players includes you. In order to differentiate those people in that pool (and for your benefit that list includes: you, JaC, Rubik, Silly, Neo, and I'm not sure who else if any). I'm excluded because I didn't flip as mafia originally. JD is excluded due to claiming self (you could replace Silly here if you believe otherwise concerning these two). PK is excluded because he's secret due to Silly's info dump on him.

So of you, JaC, Rubik, Silly, and Neo, solving who isn't town becomes dependent on shifting through actions. Your actions are lackluster. JaC has consistently been trying to game solve despite how little he posts, I don't even know about Rubik other than he admitted to killing Sneaky and Sneaky was the only death from one night, and Neo I have all the reason in the game to trust.

So yeah, you have a real chance of being mafia based on your actions alone.

That's a step up from being obv not town anymore.

As for PK, he's probably going to need a bit of time to build up his loyalty safely. I doubt he'll forgo protection on himself, and he'll need enough loyalty to both keep himself comfy from a lynch while expending enough to change people's win cons for oh so many days. Course the less people left the easier it'll be for him.

Proper course would probably be to just build up enough loyalty, wait for people to die off, then change the win cons of the few left alive over the course of 1 or 2 cycles.

He only needs a cycle and a half to convert three people for seven loyalty. That puts four votes behind his camp and capable of preventing lynches starting tomorrow by simply refusing majority. And that assumes he's the only secret player present. He's currently poised to win in the next few cycles. My rhetorical questions purpose was to draw attention to this fact and relay that PaK is a current high priority kill to force him to protect himself rather than inact this plan. Ignoring him is not an option anymore.

By convert I take it you mean change their win cons. I also take it you are assuming that his ability to change win cons is based on game days as opposed to real days.

Honestly when it comes to PK I just don't care anymore. So it's w/e.

Basically, I got some terms and a message that you'd protect me.
I added in some fluff for lolsies

I think we should all win as mafia: let neo convert the recently deceased until they confirm mafia.
Keep going until everyone is mafia (or self/survivor etc.)
Profit.

Fun Fact: Corrupted as in computer. I'm a copy of myself. The corruption Neo's role speaks of could be an alignment switch, or it could be something else entirely. Since a person is locked from knowing information about themself unless given access to it. It's completely possible that once a person is revived they may not have their original role.

But yeah, totes a town reviver that revives people into mafia.