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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:14 pm 
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good idea about combining the -1/-1 counter challenge with something else.

Since we're stuck with these quests for a long time, how about combining:

Placing -1/-1 counters on your own creatures
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Removing creatures from your own graveyard (since placing -1 counters on your own creatures often kills them)

Say...need to play at least 10 cards that do each?

I'm excited :)


How about -1/-1 Counters with life gain? And Emerge? And Cartouches? Yeeeeaaahh!!

The Kitchen Drain

2 x Festering Mummy
2 x Blisterpod
2 x Dread Wanderer
3 x Fatal Push
3 x Exemplar of Strength
2 x Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons
3 x Trial of Ambition
2 x Glint-Sleeve Siphoner
1 x Primal Druid
3 x Cartouche of Ambition
1 x Never
2 x Plague Belcher
3 x Filigree Familiar
1 x Eldritch Evolution
1 x Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
2 x Bone Picker
1 x Decimator Beetle
2 x Abundant Maw
2 x Distended Mindbender

8 x Swamp
4 x Forest
3 x Aether Hub
2 x Hissing Quagmire
2 x Foul Orchard
2 x Woodland Cemetary
1 x Rogue's Passage


I'm still submitting my first deck, revised below, so if anyone wants to submit this feel free.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:22 pm 
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Hey yo, Cucho - Zero Budget Geek posted a vid of your Grim Nemesis deck today!



Some cringy plays happen, but still wins all the games :V

I gotta post some lists on helper, maybe get one of mine played, lol

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:33 pm 
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cardboard, i love it! I really hope that gets submitted. I want to play it badly.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:26 pm 
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Cardboard you are missing at least three cards for the requirement


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:07 pm 
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Barney, I had to cut Tainted Remedy to focus on Bloodlord. I had to pick a direction and the big Bloodlord turns were more fun than Remedy in Abzan (if I had chose to focus on Remedy I'd have switched up to Esper).

Remedy's actually pretty good vs AI because it runs Regal Caracal in like all its deck and Remedy hoses that hard, winning one test game on that alone. But on the ladder you need Murk Lurker to make sure Opp has lifegain...

Now it's improved 25%, but it's dropped in jank swagger (down 50%). I'm going to mess with it a bit more before deadline but idk if it's worth submitting...

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:21 pm 
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Cardboard you are missing at least three cards for the requirement

Are you counting Exemplar of Strength?

3x Exemplar
3x Cartouche
3x Familiar
1x Kalitas
2x Maw


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:25 pm 
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Sorry i didn't count Exemplar. I have never read that line lol. So the list is fine.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:20 pm 
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Timmy, I think I'm going to submit Cardboards build instead cuz it has -1/-1 counters and I desperately want to have a deck that has those.

I hope you're not mad :(


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:57 pm 
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Sweet! Have fun!


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Timmy, I think I'm going to submit Cardboards build instead cuz it has -1/-1 counters and I desperately want to have a deck that has those.

I hope you're not mad :(


Nope, not at all. If I can get Bloodlord build decent then I'll submit it as mine since the other build is basically going to be represented already

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This is where I'm at with Defiant Jank

2 x Glory-Bound Initiate
3 x Lone Rider
2 x Reclamation Sage
1 x Nissa, Vastwood Seer
1 x Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
2 x Regal Caracal
2 x Arborback Stomper
2 x Defiant Bloodlord

2 x Aethersphere Harvester

4 x Gift of Paradise

2 x Pulse of Murasa
1 x Nissa's Renewal

2 x Prepare // Fight
3 x Blessed Alliance
2 x Yahenni's Expertise

1 x Liliana, the Last Hope
1 x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
1 x Liliana, Death's Majesty
1 x Sorin, Grim Nemesis

4 x Plains
3 x Forest
3 x Swamp
2 x Shambling Vent
2 x Hissing Quagmire
1 x Canopy Vista
2 x Sunpetal Grove
2 x Woodland Cemetery
2 x Isolated Chapel
4 x Evolving Wilds


It beats AI, but is 4/6 on the ladder (1 loss was my bad overextending into a sweeper tho, so feel more on me than on the deck).

Plenty of ways to flip Rider. Several ways to get Bloodlord back. If Bloodlord sticks, you can make short work of Opp - and it's a blast. Still tweaking, but I think the idea is worth ****ing with.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:20 am 
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Today is the last day for the submission, i have got 3 lists till now.
Not 100% sure if i can create the poll tomorrow, otherwise i should do it on tuesday and you have some more time for your lists.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:34 am 
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Joker since there's no cash prize or anything hung, why not let enthusiastic deck builders like Tihm submit a second deck if the build is drastically different than their other one? Just cuz we're low on decks anyway. Just a suggestion, I'm not married to the idea

So it's just Cardboard, Timh and I submitting decks?? :(

I can't play until Tuesday evening anyway so I'm fine with waiting until then to start


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:28 am 
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Haven_pt wrote:
Want jank? Try using Campaign of Vengeance, that card is so bad I'm not even sure how it works, if its just 1 drain when you attack or 1 drain for each creature that attacks.

I have never seen anyone play that card (though I did consider it in orzhov Tokens, my doubts and the fact that there are plenty of better options just lead me to cut it...)


Fine. FINE. You people make me do the worst things, I swear. Jeez.

And I'm ONLY doing this cause I get to use Throne too, okay?

Throne of Vengeance
3 x Sacred Cat
2 x Sram, Senior Edificer
1 x Bontu the Glorified
1 x Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet

4 x Renegade Map
4 x Cartouche of Solidarity
2 x Smuggler's Copter
2 x Throne of the God-Pharaoh
2 x Sky Skiff
3 x Trial of Ambition
3 x Hidden Stockpile
2 x Aethersphere Harvester
1 x Angelic Destiny
2 x Sram's Expertise
3 x Campaign of Vengeance
2 x From Under the Floorboards
3 x Start

9 x Plains
5 x Swamp
2 x Shambling Vent
2 x Isolated Chapel
2 x Aether Hub


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Haven_pt wrote:
Want jank? Try using Campaign of Vengeance, that card is so bad I'm not even sure how it works, if its just 1 drain when you attack or 1 drain for each creature that attacks.

I have never seen anyone play that card (though I did consider it in orzhov Tokens, my doubts and the fact that there are plenty of better options just lead me to cut it...)


Fine. FINE. You people make me do the worst things, I swear. Jeez.

And I'm ONLY doing this cause I get to use Throne too, okay?

Throne of Vengeance
3 x Sacred Cat
2 x Sram, Senior Edificer
1 x Bontu the Glorified
1 x Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet

4 x Renegade Map
4 x Cartouche of Solidarity
2 x Smuggler's Copter
2 x Throne of the God-Pharaoh
2 x Sky Skiff
3 x Trial of Ambition
3 x Hidden Stockpile
2 x Aethersphere Harvester
1 x Angelic Destiny
2 x Sram's Expertise
3 x Campaign of Vengeance
2 x From Under the Floorboards
3 x Start

9 x Plains
5 x Swamp
2 x Shambling Vent
2 x Isolated Chapel
2 x Aether Hub


No Anointed Procession?
At first glance, you have too few creatures... I'd cram in there Weaponcraft Enthusiast, even if it meant :gasp: cutting a Campaign of Vengeance... Lol

You know what wins games and gets silly-good in these decks?
Call for Unity

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Oh, I would too, if I wasn't bound by honor to run max Campaigns. Definitely works better than I thought it would though. There are 14 token sources beyond the creatures, plus the recurring cats and Copters and the persistence of hidden stockpile.

It's not really a massive wide beast though; I'd rather have an expertise T4 to power a couple Copters and drop a Throne or something than a comparatively unproductive turn used solely for Procession. The idea here is to make tokens do work beyond straight suicide attacks, using Bontu, stockpile, Copters and Cartouches make attacking a little trickier for the Opp to handle, while gaining automatic value through Throne and campaign.

Call for unity can be great too, but there again you don't get immediate value from it, and I like immediate value from my most expensive cards here. But yeah, if you aren't bound by contest rules you could turn a campaign into one. I don't think I'd run both copies.


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Hey yo, Cucho - Zero Budget Geek posted a vid of your Grim Nemesis deck today!



Some cringy plays happen, but still wins all the games :V
I gotta post some lists on helper, maybe get one of mine played, lol

Deck submit :D

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:01 am 
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Alright i have got 6 lists, but can't create the poll until tuesday. I suppose you have another day to make changes if you want.

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I'm gonna have to sit the deck testing out, because I'm on holidays and don't have a computer to play on. Looking forward to checking out the lists though.

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I just got back from "Holiday" and I don't have time to build and test anything even with the extended deadline (working till Wednesday morning).

It's too bad, I always wanted to find a way to use defiant bloodlord.

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