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Which is the best Zombie decklist?
Poll ended at Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:57 am
WB zombie aggro 20%  20%  [ 3 ]
Kel's ACK! ZOMBIES! 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Yet Another Zombie Deck 27%  27%  [ 4 ]
YOLO? LOL NOPE 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
Vampire cars zombies the movie you wanna see 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
Anointed Walkers 7%  7%  [ 1 ]
CHURN UNDEAD 7%  7%  [ 1 ]
Juicy Mummies 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
TheZombieShuffle 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
AKH Zombmeh 7%  7%  [ 1 ]
The jumping dead 7%  7%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 15
Total voters : 9
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TheGodAmongMen did. Is it me, or does that sound like the kind of handle Vert would pick for an alt?


Nah, Vert has a different posting style than him, and TheGodAmongMen seems like a regular new user.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:19 pm 
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Christ I just finished building the decks, that took more than an hour for crissakes. Wtf is with Shards deck?! I couldn't copy a single spell from another deck. Had to build it from scratch I did. You could show jump... jaysus

Now I only got 40 minutes till my show then I'm gonna have a Bath, my neck is super stiff cuz of you wankers

Some of these decks seem really cool, can't wait


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Thanks Flaky and Cardboard for the detailed game logs. Very good read and they remind me of many similar games with similar scenarios. It's great that both of you had good experience with selfless spirits. I feel too that they not only enhance 2 drop slot with flyer body, but also play key role protecting the important zombies with synergies. Zombie deck is quite similar to Allies in this regard, that most of the time we want some zombies to stick to synergize (anthem, triggered effects etc). Spirit is one of the most efficient in this support role.

btw, good job to both of you that exiled garbage glorybringers before they got to attack! Great work!

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Christ I just finished building the decks, that took more than an hour for crissakes. Wtf is with Shards deck?! I couldn't copy a single spell from another deck. Had to build it from scratch I did. You could show jump... jaysus

Now I only got 40 minutes till my show then I'm gonna have a Bath, my neck is super stiff cuz of you wankers

Some of these decks seem really cool, can't wait


I'm happy that my deck has already caused issues for Barney ;).

What I'm mostly curious about with my deck is if the deck actually feels like a zombie deck. My feeling is that Embalm creatures don't feel like zombies, even though they return from the graveyard. I think part of the issue is that they just return once, while the iconic zombie cards in Magic can usually return quite a few times per match.

That said, I'm not even sure it will do well enough to even get a feel for the deck. The mana base is iffy - I want less white sources, and more black ones. And more card filtering/draw. If you do test it, feel free to give me your feedback on it.


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Shard yours is the only deck I got to try, it was funny cuz I had anointed procession, Lord of the Accursed and That flying dude that makes Zombies vigilant and flying. I had all that out but NO zombies. I had three creatures on station with Embalm but none of them died. If they had, opponent would have been in some serious trouble. I was suicide attacking them so that they would die cuz I needed evasion but he would just let them through, lol

I ended up winning with no zombies ever, just the huge threat of zombies, too funny


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Shard yours is the only deck I got to try, it was funny cuz I had anointed procession, Lord of the Accursed and That flying dude that makes Zombies vigilant and flying. I had all that out but NO zombies. I had three creatures on station with Embalm but none of them died. If they had, opponent would have been in some serious trouble. I was suicide attacking them so that they would die cuz I needed evasion but he would just let them through, lol

I ended up winning with no zombies ever, just the huge threat of zombies, too funny


I'm glad to hear that you at least got some fun out of the deck :D. I was wondering if I should've included some kind of sacrifice effect in order to force embalm, such as Bontu the Glorified or something. It would probably help it feel like more of a zombie deck, and make it more stable.


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Who voted for WW already!?


Basically I ruled out all the gimmick decks one by one(none of them really seem tried and true), and his ended up looking the most streamlined list.
It's almost identical from my B/W zombies list only really missing the 1x graf harvest in place of a land.
and in testing it felt really meh whenever I would play my 6th land I would rather it be a graf harvest.
Still won most games, there are certain cards I just don't deem playable(throne and half the embalm creatures.)

The Anointed decks just seem like bad versions of G/W Anointed.

my 2nd choice would probably be cardboards list, but i think alms and throne as just awful and that ruins it for me so i only did the one vote.

flaky looked like he was going for hyper aggro, which I would normally be cool with, but if you're going to limit the removal you have in your deck try to keep it to 1-2 cmc. having the only removal at 3 cmc just seems meh.


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Hey cool! I got a vote! Thanks!

Who did that? Any comments or feedback?


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well, it certainly wasn't me :)


WW's deck is the one I copied most to make the other versions. It had the most in-common cards with most of the decks.

I can't believe how many start the exact same way

2x cryptbreaker
2x dread wanderer
3x fatal push (not all did this)
2x that thing that makes zombies and gives -1/-1

In making the decks and going through the utter and sheer monotony of building 10 same-y decks, the individual nuances really stick out. like when Fleshbag showed up out of nowhere, I just nodded my head in agreement. There were a few cool moments like that.

I think it'll be fun to play all of these. I'll start tomorrow night i think. I have the proper avatar ready (Liliana Death Majesty) so we're ready to rock this.


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I have this theory, which I've held since season 1: if Baby Lili is in the deck, fleshbag is also in the deck. I have no idea why I do this, but I basically always have done this. lol. Expert builder over here... rofl.


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DJ0045 wrote:
I have this theory, which I've held since season 1: if Baby Lili is in the deck, fleshbag is also in the deck. I have no idea why I do this, but I basically always have done this. lol. Expert builder over here... rofl.


I agree with this line, I just don't think she's good enough for a slot in a deck with so many great options

I would have made a UBX pocket zombie list using reanimation, tides and other **** like that, i just didn't have enough time to test it.


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As always have fun testing these lists, it requires a lot of games, so don't forget to shame deckbuilders too, maybe next time there will be less people :P
Let's see which is the best orzhov zombie decklist, and who is the best deckbuilder that control zombies and can spend a whole night with Lili, playing magic and nothing else.
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First things first, I rather play magic and nothing else with this Lili
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DJ0045 wrote:
I have this theory, which I've held since season 1: if Baby Lili is in the deck, fleshbag is also in the deck. I have no idea why I do this, but I basically always have done this. lol. Expert builder over here... rofl.


I agree with this line, I just don't think she's good enough for a slot in a deck with so many great options

I would have made a UBX pocket zombie list using reanimation, tides and other **** like that, i just didn't have enough time to test it.


Yeah, I tried that too, but I started noticing that any game that had binding mummy and flesh bag in its oppening hand was a win. After that baby lili just gets the nod. I kept trying other things, but I just kept getting closer and closer to this list. I still really wish I could have justified the blue splash though.

I should qualify this better.... we lack the 2 drops to make a viable zombie midrange build right now... after the next expansion I expect this to change, dramatically. In fact, assuming we get the kind of cards I expect, I really hope Giocher revisits this contest. Also, @Giocher, I know it's totally early, but can we do dedicated tokens next? Open mana, just general tokens.


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My money's on cucho's deck. Zombies should be mono-black. Needs more vehicles though.

My opinions on zombies is the 2-slot is too weak, so that's where you should splash your non-zombie beaters: black has plenty.


:party: Thanks for the preference, I do believe it can go short on vehicles but this build has worked out very good so far, now giving it a second view and taking notice of WW and DJ coments I think I could swap 2 Yahenni, Undying Partisan for 2 Smuggler's Copter. I think I will try that.

From all other decks I like Modulo the most, I run a BU Zombies that was very similar but it is not consistent enough, I think Supernatural Stamina could find a place in that deck.

In general I think zombies are not that good If you go all in on the synergy you tend to loose power or resilience I took a different approach with mono black which has worked just fine till now.

On the T2 debate I think no deck here beats a fatal push and bone picker ;)

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DJ0045 wrote:
DJ0045 wrote:
I have this theory, which I've held since season 1: if Baby Lili is in the deck, fleshbag is also in the deck. I have no idea why I do this, but I basically always have done this. lol. Expert builder over here... rofl.


I agree with this line, I just don't think she's good enough for a slot in a deck with so many great options

I would have made a UBX pocket zombie list using reanimation, tides and other **** like that, i just didn't have enough time to test it.


Yeah, I tried that too, but I started noticing that any game that had binding mummy and flesh bag in its oppening hand was a win. After that baby lili just gets the nod. I kept trying other things, but I just kept getting closer and closer to this list. I still really wish I could have justified the blue splash though.

I should qualify this better.... we lack the 2 drops to make a viable zombie midrange build right now... after the next expansion I expect this to change, dramatically. In fact, assuming we get the kind of cards I expect, I really hope Giocher revisits this contest. Also, @Giocher, I know it's totally early, but can we do dedicated tokens next? Open mana, just general tokens.


Fair enough, I like the cards, I do play them in other decks just haven't been a fan of them in zombies.

If only we had that 1 copy of relentless dead.

Theres so many cards I would have killed to have, most recently was haze of pollen(would have been perfect in fling drake over festivities.)


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Now if only I could get Barney to understand that this deck basically always chooses to sacrifice fleshbag I might even get a couple votes. :P


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I haven't tested any of the decks, but playing randoms on the ladder, my only deck that seems to win is zoombies (a slightly altered version though)

And I only put the zombies on wheels deck together for a laugh... Surprisingly consistent.
Didn't submit it because it didn't qualify (insuficient zombie cards).

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That deck loked quite good I miss it on the poll ;)

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my 2nd choice would probably be cardboards list, but i think alms and throne as just awful and that ruins it for me so i only did the one vote.


Thanks?

I don't know where Throne got its bad rep, honestly. Is it spillover from its status in paper magic or something? I've found in the duels environment it can be extremely valuable in the right decks. It lets me race faster aggro, it cuts through fog, it stays out through sweeps. It works with my non-zombies, my copters, my colossus tokens and tapped recursors. Bottom line is I think it wins me more games than I'd take if I swapped Wayward Servants into those slots.

Alms does good work too; I swapped the pair in for land cause I found myself discarding land all the time. Now I can get something out of that instead.


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