I'm with you. Censor is the best addition to counter based deck. 3 of is almost no brainer.

You need the disperses anyways. Censor isn't replacing disperses.

I think I mentioned this before in another thread. Regarding Pull, functionally I equate it to Sphinx's Revelation which was a 4-of during standard of its time. Those are not even ramp decks. I see that as evidence of its usefulness. But we'll still see during testing.

Censor is definitely a 3-of.

Censor is hot smoking garbage.

You're hot smoking garbage. Censor is gud

Just nipping it in the bud, this isn't Sphinx's Rev. The lifegain + option to Elixir of Immortality made the actual card a wincon in and of itself against aggro decks (well, less a wincon more of a mandatory concession from the opponent lol). Pull is still good though, just not 4-of good.

Why not both?

Censor is GREAT. I would say it's the best counter we have gotten so far. People in this thread talking about needing to answer cards on certain spots on the curve or not feeling comfortable with a deck that cannot ? Well, censor answers ANYTHING on curve starting t2. longer the game, more it drops off, but the cycling is an almost negligible cost for a control deck that doesn't want to tap out, manasinks of that nature are absolutely perfect.

I wish you were in the podcast Rabble.

Was it really that bad again without me ? Meh, maybe if they ask me nicely, and have Barney fly over to Europe and massage me in order to compensate for the late night, I could be compelled to save the show next set.

I love this guy

Wrong podcast. We talked about it at great length, and every single one of us gave it the thumbs up. Still, I wouldn't have minded you being there all the same.

Also, there's another podcast now ('Radio Amonkhet' was the first episode). They think censor is a bad card. Get em'. Lol! Also, it's NightHawk, Kryder, and 2 other guys I don't know. So it's fully half of the original non-BBB crew from the very first one. I haven't had a chance to listen to it fully yet, but I'm glad it exists.

The "other" guys name was Rob I believe and he's a long time Magic veteran whose been playing control for the better half of 10 years.

He too also believe that Censor is hot smoking garbage.

#TeamCensor

#NotAllRadioAmonkhet

#TeamCensor

It's literally the only way to counter a t2 Smuggler's Copter, or Heart of Kiran when you are on the play with blue. You can certainly build decks where that doesn't matter, but come on. Calling it garbage is just flat out ridiculous. It's a semi-situational counterspell that replaces itself when needed. It literally makes open mana relevant, regardless of whether you are playing the card or not. Even Rob said, if I remember correctly, that people would just play off curve in order to avoid it.

Let me be clear about this: his analysis is exactly why the card is good, and yet somehow he called it bad. If you make my Aggro deck play off tempo, out of fear of censor, you probably just won the game. That's a ton of power from a card you're calling garbage. But hey, to each their own.

He was arguing that in duels no one is playing on curve and incidentally will play around this card without trying to. Nighthawk and the other guy (that was a self proclaimed control pilot) were arguing that isn't necessarily true.

I think it's good for the exact reason DJ stated, it's very presence will slow down aggro players. Once the set drops I will at least hesitate to drop Gideon ally of zendikar turn 4 into my opps . That's what the card does, just like all counters, allows you to leave open mana and essentially bluff or have it they don't know.

I really think CGB nailed it... everyone should play Censor if they are Control, at least until people like me start to worry that you've got it in hand. Once that's part of the mental math people use when playing duels, then the card stops being as valuable, but not until then.

Anyway, I still think Rakdos Vehicles will be the strongest mid-aggro deck in the meta. But I have high hopes for RG Aggro. Furthermore, while I haven't built it yet, I'm convinced there is a new RDW, linear Aggro deck, now, and I think it could be very good.

Also, tokens are going to be good, but not because of anointed procession. They will be good, because we will try them in the hopes of breaking the card, and then settle on very good lists (which probably don't include procession). We got some pretty important cards to make tokens good this season.