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GodOfAtheism

Post subject: Re: AHK Duels List is up!

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:21 pm

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Throw in Tutelage and laugh all the way to the bank either way?

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:24 pm

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I set the bar lower and play it turn 3 before ramping into an early Sandwurm Convergence.

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Hello World

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:29 pm

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If they switched mr. "hey kids put ridicuoulus 8-10 drops in your non-ramp deck so hello world gets crushed by something unexpected that doesn't belong to your deck just when he believed he had stabilized" for the DOUBLE clone, I'd think this was a dream list, as it is I'm quite pleased (except for champion of rhonas)

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elk

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:33 pm

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Can't believe we didn't get the bike lands. I get the feeling we'll never see any better fixing just to control the speed/flexibility of the format.

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Psychatog

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:39 pm

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elk wrote:

Can't believe we didn't get the bike lands. I get the feeling we'll never see any better fixing just to control the speed/flexibility of the format.

elk

I think they are keeping tabs on how much people are playing and winning with mono-color decks and once the format gets dense enough for there to be a noticeable shift towards mono-color then they will add more fixing.

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Haven_pt

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:46 pm

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Actually, boros humans may work... Trial of zeal with the red/white cartouches doesn't look half bad... Red also got some interesting humans... Hmm...

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Auunj

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:46 pm

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OH god. Ramp here I come!:-)

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Torgandwarf

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:48 pm

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GodOfAtheism wrote:

Throw in Tutelage and laugh all the way to the bank either way?

I think that now we would be able to build non tutelage mill deck. Embalm is tricky though, but there is possibility to exile cards from graveyard now...

I played against few creature/energy mill decks on steam, and it was fun. It still used tutelage, but with few cards from Amonkhet it could work without tutelage, and that would be fun to play. Tutelage deck actually does not work without tutelage(although my opponents always draw at least 2 in top 15 cards

), but now there is lot of tools to start mill very early in game.

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Actually, boros humans may work... Trial of zeal with the red/white cartouches doesn't look half bad... Red also got some interesting humans... Hmm...

I think WW humans, with exert and always watching could work great, especially with Devoted Crop-Mate reanimation and 3 Gideons.

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Eonblueapocalypse

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:54 pm

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Wow, ended up getting like 90% of the cards I really wanted. Super impressed so far. /dance

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Hello World

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:01 pm

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All missing cards:

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Shredding a tear for vizier of many faces, as foretold and shefet monitor.( SOrry angel of sanctions, you look extremely powerful, but more boring than these).

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Dmannn

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:15 pm

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I'm surprised you guys haven't noticed the best news of all...

We didn't get ANOTHER redundant act of treason-esque card!

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The Secret of TIMH

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:18 pm

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WrightJustice wrote:

divinevert wrote:

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So...now that we got anointed procession ( i thought we were gonna miss out on that one after panharmonicon) anybody got any bright ideas how to break it?

I set the bar low at desolation twin, your move.

Saheeli Rai + Combustible Gearhulk = Let me draw 6 or die

Also with Flameshadow Conjuring.
Play the hulk, clone it for 2 more with conjuring and then Saheeli clone it for a total of 5 Gearhulks.

Any of the Gearhulks (except that white loser) would be hilarious fun in that combo. Imagine Copying green hulk, and tossing all the counters from the copies on the hasty one for jumbo trample 9000.

The black one for one sided sweeper with insane lifegain.

The blue one to flashback all the instants in your yard.

Even the much more vanilla (combo) Rise from the Tide would be crazy to double up on. Or lololol Kiora's ultimate. I get the feeling this card will be all over the place near the end of the season when peeps get in the mood to build really goofy stuff.

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HARBiNG3R

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:23 pm

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Dmannn wrote:

I'm surprised you guys haven't noticed the best news of all...

We didn't get ANOTHER redundant act of treason-esque card!

But we got another common black "draw 2 cards and lose two life" card.

there are enough of these that you can legit kill yourself without your opponent doing anything.

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Dmannn

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:28 pm

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HARBiNG3R wrote:

Dmannn wrote:

I'm surprised you guys haven't noticed the best news of all...

We didn't get ANOTHER redundant act of treason-esque card!

But we got another common black "draw 2 cards and lose two life" card.

there are enough of these that you can legit kill yourself without your opponent doing anything.

Yep. That was one of the sillier inclusions. Why on earth would anyone use that when we have read the bones?

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Kryder

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:56 pm

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Dmannn wrote:

HARBiNG3R wrote:

Dmannn wrote:

I'm surprised you guys haven't noticed the best news of all...

We didn't get ANOTHER redundant act of treason-esque card!

But we got another common black "draw 2 cards and lose two life" card.

there are enough of these that you can legit kill yourself without your opponent doing anything.

Yep. That was one of the sillier inclusions. Why on earth would anyone use that when we have read the bones?

Because you can use it to target tour opponent for 2 dmg.

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WrightJustice

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:29 pm

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Torgandwarf wrote:

GodOfAtheism wrote:

Throw in Tutelage and laugh all the way to the bank either way?

), but now there is lot of tools to start mill very early in game.

Haven_pt wrote:

Actually, boros humans may work... Trial of zeal with the red/white cartouches doesn't look half bad... Red also got some interesting humans... Hmm...

I think WW humans, with exert and always watching could work great, especially with Devoted Crop-Mate reanimation and 3 Gideons.

How do you plan to do a mill deck without Tutelage?

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InFaMoUsGeMiNi

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:41 pm

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DJ0045

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:44 pm

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Okay, so looking over zombies again, I'm not sure it's got the 2 drops it needs to be a real deck yet. They are really going to get pummeled t2-3-4, basically requiring a lord to stick in order to be competitive with other 2 and 3 drops. This doesn't mean they'll be bad per se, but it's worth considering when building. Right now I'm thinking a token approach will be the best option, as well as a slightly higher curve that goes more toward the direction of removal rather than early creatures. Not sure until testing, but just thinking out loud.

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Banedon

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:03 pm

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They gave use Never. Wow, finally something that kills planeswalkers!

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WrightJustice

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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:08 pm

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Oh damn I missed that they give us a cheap, common and reasonably mill card that can change how mill works for us. No more truly relying on Tutes anymore?
Oh damn we also got Essence Sactter.
I'm taking a deeper look at these cards and not just hyping over the good stuff I saw and wanted.

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