This happens in competitive paper magic as well.

In my opinion, the reason for these tournaments was always the content and not the competition. That's why the first tournament didn't have sideboards and it's why we didn't force people to keep connecting until the proper player was on the play. Content was King.

The only real discussion that needs to be had is why do these tournaments exist? Is it content? Or is it competition? The tourney rules would be remarkably different in each case.

I'm going to interject on the content side here. There's a lot of videos from the last tournament with like, 2 views. Even some top 8 matches with maybe 20 tops. Seems to me like the competition matters more to you lot than the content, otherwise these videos would have harder figures to support that argument. Whoever suggested just the top 8 be recorded probably has it right, since very few are bothering to look up say...Haven PT vs Nightwisher at 11 views: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCS18UxJsto

That was my suggestion to kryder. 1 video per tournament minimum and top-8 mandatory. When your in the bottom half of the ladder, nobody cares to Watch your games...
You should record anyway in case of arbitration or if you see an ilegal card. Posting is unnecessary unless you really want to...

So its more about the competition than content then? If thats the case your suggestion sounds like the best fit.

I am a very casual player. I have never played paper magic. I did play mtg on cockatrice for a few games and I think I drove anyone I played with crazy. I tried a cube once and was kicked for reading the cards (they wanted quick picks). My posts are ignored by the serious players here, I think they smell the casualness I bring. They probably wont respond/read this post, but that's ok I'm fine with that.

This was my very first tournament of mtg anything. The only reason I was ready with video recording is because I attempted to enter the afterparty after kaladesh fight club and was scrambling to figure out how twitch works for it then. If sideboards were mandatory I may not have entered, but I want to improve and learn so maybe I would have. I was already at a disadvantage with my lack of experience just being in the thing. I understand better now what wins tournaments and how they work (a little bit) just playing this one. Before this it was all theory for me.

Another inequity is experience with all the cards. I jumped into this game late so I only just recently finished unlocking all the cards (beginning of AR). I may not have enough coins for the next set when it drops, something that could effect my status in the next fight club. Adding sideboards for some players could be a big deal but I think the majority on this forum prefer the additional options. Just know some of the new guys may need some encouraging and coaching. CGB made a video that encouraged those like me to step up. The more complicated the more inferior a newer player will feel, but videos like CGB's are what is needed to help this grow.

If there are some ambassador types that will help the noobs I think sideboards wouldn't be too heavy. With people just cutting them down with negativity or trolling when mistakes are made this won't grow most will quit on the spot. Some flexibility from Kryder on non-essential issues for those players would also help encourage them to continue.

my .02

This right here. If some participants quit with the "holier than thou" attitude towards other participants and followed CGB's example with the video you pointed out, then this would look a lot friendlier. This attitude probably reflects why the effort for players to record/stream for anything outside of top 8 or popular NGA favourites is wasted, with the examples I stated earlier. If say for example, Vert was to do a video on what makes a good tournament deck (since he's so DAMN knowledgeable) then the newbies could have material to help them out.
Kryder made some decisions I didn't agree with when I played these, gave me this passive aggressive schtick for it too, but I can't fault his efforts for the tournament scene or the crap he has to put up with from everyone in order to keep it going. There isn't much his end that needs to change in rulings outside of requirements to enter. Like Hakeem said, what are these for? If its about content, then the participation isn't enough, watch the content others have made and support each other. If its about competition and bragging rights, then the restrictions on recording should go.

I've lurked here for a bit, but I mostly check the subreddit over here because there do seem to be individuals that start fights or behave condescendingly to others with different ideas. The most I see over there are players complaining about planeswalker cards, but the mods usually see to that or it gets downvoted. I'd love to see some videos like Sl33pHumper suggested from players who are more experienced in tournaments than me. Something that shows what mindset you should have when building would be great!

Thank you btw Kryder for the PM. Hopefully I can get involved whatever the ruleset ends up being.

I want to point out that I am in no way criticizing Kryder for how he has handled anything. I only mention him by name as he has taken on the administration of these tournaments and makes decisions on who receives a warning and who gets DQ'd as well as who can enter the next one. It obviously take a lot of time and effort to do and gets a lot of flack and booing when there are any hiccups. I applaud his efforts and laugh at anyone that complains about a no fee tournament that has prizes and is run by a single volunteer.

I'm fine with the previous recording requirement for the winner. Is there a need to find a good OBS youtube tutorial and post it in the next tournament announcement thread next time?



I've got mixed feelings regarding sideboards. They are worse in terms of convenience and checking rule compliance, but I don't mind trying it out. I think many people overestimate how much of an impact the sideboards will have because of rarity restrictions, but I might be very wrong on this count too.

3. Deck building skill will be challenged in this next tournament. More to follow.

Difficult to comment on this before there are news Let me know when there's more

4. EDIT: Top 8 will be best of 5 games (this is a definite inclusion). Sorry, I forgot to add that here earlier.

Sure thing, sounds good

In regards to recording matches requirements, it might also be beneficial to mention an alternative for those who have issues with OBS
Way back when i participated in showdown 2, the comp I had ran duels fine, but really struggled when streaming with OBS at same time. Even just recording with OBS (not streaming) produced bad results. Luckily I found another free recording program by the second round (Loilo), that didn't cause lag or produce choppy vids, which was then fine for streaming the recorded vid afterwards with OBS as it didn't have streaming functionality itself

How about splitting tournament into two time zones??
I think there will be more people who want to play in the normal time frame, European for example

What about the people with a terrible sleep schedule?

What about the players who have a slight intolerance to gluten?

We don't talk about those we tossed in a Nashville roadside ditch.