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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:56 am 
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Welcome to 3 Card Magic, the world's best minimalist Magic format!

What's 3CM?
The basic concept is simple: make a deck consisting of any three Magic cards, and try to beat all the other decks! If you're new here, you should start by reading the 3CM Primer.
Deck submissions should be PM'd to me, CommanderJim, or emailed to [email protected].

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Now Grading: Vanilla
Begins Wednesday, February 22nd
Ends Friday, February 24th
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Upcoming Round: Vanilla Lands
You can play any basic land card from outside the game any time you could normally play a land. (Vanilla banned list, plus some extras.)
Always banned in Vanilla Lands: Beacon of Creation, Black Lotus, Fastbond, Meddling Mage, Red Sun's Zenith, White Sun's Zenith
Begins Saturday, Feburary 25th
Ends Wednesday, March 1st

Upcoming Round: Alternate Format (TBD)
Special Deckbuilding Rules
Begins Friday, March 3rd
Ends Wednesday, March 8th

Upcoming Round: Alternate Format (TBD)
Special Gameplay Rules
Begins Friday, March 10th
Ends Wednesday, March 12th

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:57 am 
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Hello! Welcome to the Selesnya Conclave! I know your first day here can be a little overwhelming, but don't worry. I'll show you around. See that scruffy guy over there? That's Gary. He was a nervous recruit just like you a few weeks ago, and now he's a trusted member of the team! In fact, just last week, he saved our medicine shipment. This mysterious hooded woman stopped us on the road. She said the route wasn't safe and refused to let us go any further. Fortunately, Gary knew a detour through the undercity. Sure, it was a little damp and musty, but we got the supplies delivered on time! And that's what matters, right? But don't worry about getting everything right on your first mission. Take Gary as an example. On his first mission, he was meeting an immortal member of the ghost council when some Golgari shamans attacked. They transformed the ghost lord into a wild beast! Gary ended up killing it to keep it from causing havoc in the streets. He got a bit of a lecture afterwards about diplomacy and the sanctity of life, but it was a tough situation. Everyone makes mistakes, you know? The key is to not repeat them, which is why our Izzet liason Mark got us some robotic artillery to give us some extra security in future missions. Anyway, let's take a five minute break. I'm gonna go see how Gary's medicine run went.

Sorry to keep you waiting. Apparently they ran into that strange hooded woman again, and once again they had to go through undercity Golgari territory to get around. Gary sure likes going down there, huh? It's almost as if... no, I'm sure it's nothing. Let's get you prepped for your first mission, shall we?

Bans: Commandeer, Elixir of Immortality, Elspeth Tirel, Summer Bloom
Unbans: Encroach, Inquisition of Kozilek, Lotus Bloom, Tidehollow Sculler

The unbans this season include a lot of discard effects. With the discard rule changed, these spells are a lot less dangerous, but the Sculler might just be good enough. Lotus Bloom will enable some powerful turn-4's, and I'm curious to see if it's fast enough to impact Vanilla Lands. The banning of Summer Bloom removes a powerful source of ramp in that format, and the Elixir ban removes an entire type of deck from the field. I'm not really sure what any of this means, but I'm excited to find out! Let's play some 3 Card Magic!

New Round: Vanilla
Begins Wednesday, February 22nd
Ends Friday, February 24th
Season 24 Vanilla Banned List

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:42 am 
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we've gone so minimalistic, there's no more season numbers in the thread title anymore

(also there are still recursion engines that are playable for vanilla lands, they just don't cost 1 mana and don't come with elixir's lifegain so that route is a lot worse)


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:07 am 
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I'm not sure I'll be able to make a deck for this round or for the next one, I'm going skiing for a week this Saturday. I'll try, but things are a bit hectic right now.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:14 am 
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(also there are still recursion engines that are playable for vanilla lands, they just don't cost 1 mana and don't come with elixir's lifegain so that route is a lot worse)


lol

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I almost think that would be more annoying than the threat of discard. :P

Edit: So looking back through older seasons, I found that I banned Inkmoth Nexus in Season 18 as part of my 2nd place prize. Has it really remained banned since then?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:04 am 
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24 hours left to submit Vanilla decks!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:43 am 
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Zlehtnoba wrote:
I'm not sure I'll be able to make a deck for this round or for the next one, I'm going skiing for a week this Saturday. I'll try, but things are a bit hectic right now.


Vanilla rounds are easy to mail in a minimal effort on. You can get others to score for you if you'd like but actually getting fewer submitters at this point could be the death knell.


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So... right now we only have four decks. I'm in the middle of another busy weekend, so I'm not sure what to do about that, but I definitely don't want to close the round right now.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:18 pm 
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I hate to say it, but I no longer have the motivation to figure out what it takes to keep this going. I'm officially stepping down as 3CM host. If someone else wants to take the reigns, I might be able to help in smaller ways. Otherwise, we'll all just have to take a break for now.

I do want to thank everyone for their participation. Running this for the past few years has been great, and I hope I'm able to do it again someday.

I'll post the last spreadsheet tonight or tomorrow. Winner takes all. ;)

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Vanilla Spreadsheet!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:15 am 
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the joke is that there was still one elspeth

likely wouldn't have won the round though because of illness in the ranks


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:06 am 
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Welp, I dun goofed. :V

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Is it just me or does Edacade's deck lose to itself if he ever plays Hunted Horror?
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Congratulations Spy on being 3CM champion.


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mark777 wrote:
Is it just me or does Edacade's deck lose to itself if he ever plays Hunted Horror?
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illness in the ranks makes that not the case, because 3 attacks for 7 is faster than 5 attacks for 4 that gets a turn head start

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Congratulations Spy on being 3CM champion.

seems like the format in general is dead, which is a shame

guess people don't like theoretical formats


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Congratulations, Golgari_Spy! You won 3 Card Magic! The usual awards don't make sense here, so... have a cookie! :cookie:

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guess people don't like theoretical formats


I think it's more that people don't like to think. I base this on the fact that there are people in my playgroup who complain about having to do math while running certain decks that they quizzically find fun (despite not having fun thinking about the math).

Also on the fact that my submissions are/were always from a list of 3CM decks that I have put together because I think they have interesting interactions, in contrast to winning interactions. :incognito:

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Congratulations, Golgari_Spy! You won 3 Card Magic! The usual awards don't make sense here, so... have a cookie! :cookie:

just in case, edacade should ban a card for his consolation prize

(i was all set to play vitu-ghazi, the city-tree in land rule too)

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guess people don't like theoretical formats


I think it's more that people don't like to think. I base this on the fact that there are people in my playgroup who complain about having to do math while running certain decks that they quizzically find fun (despite not having fun thinking about the math).

Also on the fact that my submissions are/were always from a list of 3CM decks that I have put together because I think they have interesting interactions, in contrast to winning interactions. :incognito:

if people begged really hard, they could probably get someone else to do it for them

that still requires submitting though


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illness in the ranks makes that not the case, because 3 attacks for 7 is faster than 5 attacks for 4 that gets a turn head start


They have protection from black.

Unless my mtg is extremely rusty, that means they can block the 7/7 without being damage and they can attack without it blocking them. Thus as long as one 2/2 blocks every turn and the other attacks every turn they can't lose. And since Edacade doesn't have something else it's just a mise deck.

:(

This was my last reason for visiting the forum... Guess I get to leave then.


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Hunted Horror has trample. Even with protection, "lethal damage" for a 2/2 Centaur is 2, so the Horror can assign 2 damage to the Centaur (which will be prevented) and 5 to the defending player.

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