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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:59 pm 
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Honze wrote:
Oh boy, Full art basic lands directly from boosters .

Need some new cosmetic full art for Duels.

The art style for this new set looks great. I'm getting a mysterious vibe from it that reminds me a bit of Tempest and Tempest was my favorite set in terms of feel so I'm all in.

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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
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Ooooh, pretties. The Gods looks awesome and definitely grandiose and very golden.
Love the heron(?) god, looks very majestic, also snek god ftw.

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Liliana, Deaths's Mannipulator 5BB
+2 Put a -1/-1 counter in up to one creature.

Gideon, Martial Paragon 4W (or 1W, but 4w matches Liliana)
+2 Untap all creatures you control, those creatures receive +1/+1 until end of turn.

Doesn't usually matter for us buuuuut Liliana giving -1/-1 counters probably means -1/-1 counters is a thing in Amonkhet.

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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:56 pm 
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for a 7 mana walker the + effect of liliana looks weak to me, it's a +2 so it compensates by contributing more quickly to whatever the ultimate is but still. My whole turn for -1/-1 to one creature ... I'm curious about the - effect.


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Yeah, well it's a starter PW deck walker so was never going to be too great.

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More full art lands would be good for Duels.

Love Lilly's artwork (regular art, not the art for the PW deck).

Yay, -1/-1 counters are back :dance:

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-1/-1 counters with Winding Constrictor is just gas. Image

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zzmorg82 wrote:
-1/-1 counters with Winding Constrictor is just gas. Image

I don't think you understand how snek works. -1/-1 counters are great vs. snek, but using them alongside each other has no synergy


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-1/-1 counters with Winding Constrictor is just gas. Image

I don't think you understand how snek works. -1/-1 counters are great vs. snek, but using them alongside each other has no synergy


It is just gas... for your opponents negative counter sources Image

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zzmorg82 wrote:
-1/-1 counters with Winding Constrictor is just gas. Image

I don't think you understand how snek works. -1/-1 counters are great vs. snek, but using them alongside each other has no synergy


It is just gas... for your opponents negative counter sources Image


This. Not to mention it won't be a bad option in mirror matches; especially after your sideboard is implemented. Image

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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
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-1/-1 counters eh? Well, so long Snek deck!

Looks like there will be "natural" looking minions of the Gods based on some artwork revealed. The Gods basically look like humans with metallic head swaps, but their minion races just look like anthropomorphised versions of them. Speculating races, I'd guess:

White Kitty Lady - Cat/Leonin (likely the former)
Blue Heron Dude - Aven
Red Croc - Viashino?
Black Pupper - Likely a new race, might just be labelled "hound" type like Ainok Guide.
Green Snek - Snake "X" like Sakura-Tribe Elder.

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My Guess is;

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Legendary Creature - God
Legendary Creature - God
Legendary Creature - God
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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
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Sjokwaave wrote:
My Guess is;

Legendary Creature - God
Legendary Creature - God
Legendary Creature - God
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Legendary Creature - God


Wasn't talking about the Gods you ninny, their minion lookalikes :p

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My bad; that's what I get for posting before my second cup of coffee.

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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
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Ooooh, pretties. The Gods looks awesome and definitely grandiose and very golden.
Love the heron(?) god, looks very majestic, also snek god ftw.

EDIT:
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+2 Put a -1/-1 counter in up to one creature.

Gideon, Martial Paragon 4W (or 1W, but 4w matches Liliana)
+2 Untap all creatures you control, those creatures receive +1/+1 until end of turn.

Doesn't usually matter for us buuuuut Liliana giving -1/-1 counters probably means -1/-1 counters is a thing in Amonkhet.


Hmm they should have made Liliana's plus 2 make all opponent creatures receive -1/-1 per turn! Would have offset Gideon's plus 2.

But yeah counters may be it. Hopefully we see some powerful curse enchantments and auras, especially if they can be planted on or affect vehicles.


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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
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Apparently the Almond Cat concept has spread...

http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/15 ... e-pit-1473

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Ok, let's talk possible reprints. I'm more interested in any that fit Amonkhet thematically, than mechanically (-1/-1 counters), but anything's fine. What came to my mind were cards like Desert Twister and Entomb. Both fun and on theme. What can you think of?


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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
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Ok, let's talk possible reprints. I'm more interested in any that fit Amonkhet thematically, than mechanically (-1/-1 counters), but anything's fine. What came to my mind were cards like Desert Twister and Entomb. Both fun and on theme. What can you think of?

MaRo considers Desert Twister a color pie break so they are probably not going to reprint it.

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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
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Of course, Damnation would be nice to see in HOD where it'd make thematic sense, but I doubt we'll see it reprinted in standard like Fel said. Not that it affects either choo-choo.dec or Saheeli.dec in any meaningful way. Hero's Downfall would be thematic for character death too. Anger of the Gods could work, and would be a sweeper to cripple Vehicles (suck it Scrounger!)

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