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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:28 pm 
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Regardless of what comes with amonketh, I don't think we need a new sweeper in duels, the duels cardpool is lacking in other areas.


True... we what we currently need badly:
BX, or BBX : destroy target creature or Pw'er.
B or B1 or BB Look at target player's hand, choose a non-land card, target player exiles or discards that card.

R1 deal 3 damage to target creature or player (instant would be a bonus, but not necessary.)

U2 or UU1: Instant Put target non-land permanent on the bottom of target player's library - even better if we get to choose top or bottom, lols. (wording is wrong, but that's the card we need.)

Also need a bunch more 1 and 2 drops that are good enough to play.


We do NOT need the red spell you propose.. nor does Standard. The rest.. yeah, sure. I agree with Sjok.. we need some better mid-range fat that isn't mythic.. much more than busted ass two drops.

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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:18 am 
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Looks like we are getting new Gideon and Liliana planeswalkers in AKH (based on AKH Planeswalker Decks):

http://news.toyark.com/2017/02/18/toy-f ... eal-242701

Likewise, the Toy Show photos confirm packaging previously leaked online.

https://twitter.com/jeremynoell/status/ ... 52/photo/1

So Nicol Bolas will be in HOU & Vraska in Atlanzan?


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No Bolas until HoD :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
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I know what would piss everybody off... More vehicles, especially good 1-drop Vehicles (wizards shoots itself in the foot and makes Vehicles a staple mechanic).

What would be ultra-cool and much needed is a bad-ass rakdos PW (especially one that ninjas other PWs)

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I know what would piss everybody off... More vehicles, especially good 1-drop Vehicles (wizards shoots itself in the foot and makes Vehicles a staple mechanic).

What would be ultra-cool and much needed is a baknow.
a ÇÇNns rakdos PW (especially one that ninjas other PWs)


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Haven_pt wrote:
I know what would piss everybody off... More vehicles, especially good 1-drop Vehicles (wizards shoots itself in the foot and makes Vehicles a staple mechanic).

What would be ultra-cool and much needed is a bad-ass rakdos PW (especially one that ninjas other PWs)


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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
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Just thinking: given that we now know it's Gideon and Lily that's yet another 2 walkers for Abzan, which is rather boring.

I wonder what power level we'll be looking at for them, given that their current iterations are very stong and staples of :w: and :b: respectively? I don't think Gideon will be all that different; I'd expect him to be 3 or 4 mana and fit for purpose in aggressive decks (I'm sure vehicles will love him) though maybe tuned down a little from AoZ given his omnipresence throughout the current rotation. Lily is a little harder to predict.

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Just thinking: given that we now know it's Gideon and Lily that's yet another 2 walkers for Abzan, which is rather boring.

I wonder what power level we'll be looking at for them, given that their current iterations are very stong and staples of :w: and :b: respectively? I don't think Gideon will be all that different; I'd expect him to be 3 or 4 mana and fit for purpose in aggressive decks (I'm sure vehicles will love him) though maybe tuned down a little from AoZ given his omnipresence throughout the current rotation. Lily is a little harder to predict.


Yeah it sucks...

I think seeing as EMN Lili was all about her "raise an army of the dead" fantasy, we should probably expect something more along the lines of her lifeloss/discard iterations. I'd love to see a 6 mana version of Gideon, since there's a 4 and 6 mana Chandra. A Rakdos PW would also be awesome.

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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
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As long as new Gideon isn't as ******* annoying to play against i'm good haha **** Ally of Zendikar and everything he stands for.

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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
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Also of note, the name of the "five trials". My guesses would be:

Trial of Solidarity - White dominant (if there's shards/dual colours)
Trial of Knowledge - Blue dominant
Trial of Strength - Green dominant
Trial of Ambition - Black dominant
Trial of Zeal - Red dominant

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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
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Based on his current power level, I'd imagine 6 CMC Gideon being similar to Elspeth, Sun's Champion. Not sure how I'd feel about that, though it would be a massive boon for control.

Also aren't we expecting one of Lily's demons to show up? Potentially a bomb for black. Given the vibe of Amonkhet I wouldn't be surprised if Abzan goodstuff reclaimed its place as one of the premier decks.

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Also of note, the name of the "five trials". My guesses would be:

Trial of Solidarity - White dominant (if there's shards/dual colours)
Trial of Knowledge - Blue dominant
Trial of Strength - Green dominant
Trial of Ambition - Black dominant
Trial of Zeal - Red dominant


Given the Grixis king is around, I'd hope for:

Bant
Esper
Jund
Grixis
Naya

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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
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Green should be so dumbed-down on this plane, but you're probably right given all the other stuff Green already has. Here's hoping for another mythic bomb creature in that demon for mono Black!

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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
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Predicted there would be a Gideon and seemed pretty apparent there would be a Lilliana after learning her next demon to kill is on Amonkhet.
Also semi-confirming the packaging and Bolas showing up in HOD is fine, it makes sense since the GW probably going to lose to him and have to run away and there's the Mythos around when the God-Pharaoh returns and all that so wouldn't make sense for him to be present right off the bat.

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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
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That would be in keeping with some anticipating Amonkhet being a trap for the Gatewatch. Love to see one of these power rangers get taken out for story development.

EDIT: Monday morning inadvertent reveals.

Portuguese Magic Facebook shows images of the Amonkhet planeswalkers decks with some card text visible.

https://www.facebook.com/magicthegather ... =3&theater

Rough translation of what can be made out:

Liliana, Deaths's (or mind's) Mannipulator 3BB

+3 Put a -1/-1 counter in up to one creature.

Gideon, Martial Paragon 4W

So maybe the -1/-1 counter mechanic returns?


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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
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Oh boy, Full art basic lands directly from boosters .

Need some new cosmetic full art for Duels.


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 Post subject: Re: Amonkhet Speculation
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Guessing the god's art got revealed too. Liking the Black one.

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Hard to say. The Planeswalker deck's version of Tezzeret and Ajani were nothing like the actual release versions.

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Does that picture of the Anubis based god remind anyone else of Stargate? Masks instead of actual animal heads.

Also, that dog is totally about to throw its own stick.

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Oh boy, Full art basic lands directly from boosters .

Need some new cosmetic full art for Duels.

Am I the only one who doesn't like full art lands? They don't look right alongside non-basic lands which still have the text box on the bottom half.

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