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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:17 am 
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@Zinger You know I'm trying a pirate themed mafia game on neoseeker right now... So ironically nice timing.

Oh well, time to wait this one out.

Zinger I'm dead anyways, mind sending me a PM with Rags real target.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:43 pm 
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End of Game

Shock - Niklor, shadow amber, LilyStorm, KoD
KoD - Shock

Shock has been electrocuted to death.

The winners are:

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:53 pm 
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Looking forward to people telling me how imbalanced the game was.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:38 pm 
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The lynch (almost) immunity thingy was the only thing that truly bothered me.

Im surprised how many people told the truth about their roles and factions and everything.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:42 pm 
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Also shock's trait is absolutley awful

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:46 pm 
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The counterplay to that was largely:

A dead Rag doesn't count towards the majority
Maraxas was worth 2 votes on certain days
2 other factions had killing roles
You could learn the truth behind his ability and play around it
NeoSilk would have reason to try to kill at least one Deist.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:50 pm 
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LilyStorm wrote:
Also shock's trait is absolutley awful

He could have won with you and Freddeh (or with NeoSilk) and only you and Freddeh had the potential to learn how his ability worked.

Cato's ability also could have been used to convert someone solely to Atheism because of the faction trait, which would have made it possible to have another player win in either situation. Amber also could have become an Atheist and won with him.

Shock's role was much better than a standard serial killer role, probably, because there were a few players he could win with.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:41 pm 
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Mongoose and Freddeh should've been more trusting. For Freddeh, may not have mattered as much since he was in position five, but if Mongoose had been upfront with me about being a Deist, I suspect that Amber would've converted to Deist if I asked. Obviously, Amber may disagree about that. Still, I couldn't advise Amber to convert to Deist or Carthage because neither Mongoose or Freddeh claimed those.

Cato might've been in the same boat if it wasn't for the early Deist Uber.

Numbers loves to bluff when things are going poorly for him. :V

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:02 pm 
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Hope you are happy kos, numbers and mongoose, we lynched shock at the end.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:16 pm 
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Honestly i was rags only true ally and we were going to chaos utter chaos when i convinced everyone to lynch freddeh and then niklor. Also would have been nice if maraxas had actuwlly played the game but he's pretty busy with work so.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:50 pm 
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I'm never happy HW.

Especially when you misspell my name.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:01 pm 
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@Nik, that's where you're mistaken. I lie consistently throughout all phases of the game.

I don't think this game had a balance issue. Everybody had a decent shot of winning. Where pickles seem to form is in the lack of utter betrayal early game. People seem to think they can wait until the last minute to swerve the game, but if you let a power group have control you won't break it later. Certain decisions led to this outcome. Different decisions would have made a vastly different landscape (specifically talking about my decision not to kill Niklor and KoD's decision to kill Fred over Shock). But at no point was the balance of the factions the deciding factor here.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:29 pm 
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Never felt like I didn't have a chance.

Limited my choices sure, but until the end thought there was a chance. Though I do have to admit once Freddeh was taken out I was beginning to feel chances were slipping away. Especially since I lacked information he had.

For one I never knew the nature of Shadow's ability so never knew how that would go until it was already used.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:12 pm 
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Maybe its just personal preference but I think groups should have been more interchangable. Like, once you see all the roles you can kind of see that certain people are forced to work with each other.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:06 pm 
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tbh i didn't really do much (or like anything at all, really); half the reason i play these at all is to see the design file at the end
didn't look too bad, though
also @nik i probably would have switched to whatever since my main goal was 'not lose' and your intel was way better than mine

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:26 pm 
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I thought that the game was quite fun, and right up until Numbers and I died thought we had a solid shot at winning. GGWP all.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:51 am 
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Niklor, I was too trusting actually...of Lily. Well, kinda.

I threw my hat into the second most logical arena, mostly because of my paranoia about neo (i was almost certain his wincon was to find and kill me lol).

Really, I torpedoed the game at the start by not knowing that Carthage was a recurring role, so the NK knew who I was basically from the start (<3 KoD). I could have gone the boring route and buddied up the monotheists right away and just rode that train to victory, but oh well.

Also missing end of days like practically every day didn't help XD.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:12 am 
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Freddeh wrote:
I threw my hat into the second most logical arena, mostly because of my paranoia about neo (i was almost certain his wincon was to find and kill me lol).

He did need you dead to win, to be fair.


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Rubik wrote:
Freddeh wrote:
I threw my hat into the second most logical arena, mostly because of my paranoia about neo (i was almost certain his wincon was to find and kill me lol).

He did need you dead to win, to be fair.



I always forget about Carthage. Except last game, when I was Carthage.

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