It is currently Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:58 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 39 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Everything costs double
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:25 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jul 29, 2015
Posts: 713
Has anyone else noticed how 90% of the good cards we get seemed to be locked into mono to dual color decks? I get they don't want 5 color decks having an easy time of it, but c'mon now, I'm going through trying to make some gearhulk fun and every 2/3 cards is this or that. this doesn't look too promising ='(

_________________
Some mages just want to watch the world burn:
Spoiler


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:33 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Oct 28, 2014
Posts: 4373
Except we have Tireless Tracker, Sylvan Advocate and Declaration in Stone to show why great cards should be double costed. The latter is in every deck running White because it is the most efficient removal we have, and both of the former need to have a reeeeeeal good excuse not to be auto-includes in any deck using Green.

Also, all my counter spells are Double Blue, I know the feel :(

_________________
^ NGA's resident embodiment of "Poe's Law".


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:35 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jan 27, 2014
Posts: 5045
It's part of balancing.. and it's a good thing. Bounce's post is proof why.

_________________
Drown Me In Blood - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AQXuq5-638g


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:42 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: May 05, 2015
Posts: 2821
Location: zz
Identity: Nah.
Preferred Pronoun Set: ---
Aether Hub might help; assuming.

_________________
GameCenter ID: zzmorg82_

Link to my smilies: https://imgur.com/a/HJMsX


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:56 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jan 27, 2014
Posts: 5045
zzmorg82 wrote:
Aether Hub might help; assuming.


That card is great. So far.. it's my favorite thing to do with energy.

_________________
Drown Me In Blood - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AQXuq5-638g


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:58 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Oct 28, 2014
Posts: 4373
zzmorg82 wrote:
Aether Hub might help; assuming.


That card is great. So far.. it's my favorite thing to do with energy.


Not Harnessed Lightning? :confused:

_________________
^ NGA's resident embodiment of "Poe's Law".


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:01 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jul 29, 2015
Posts: 713
For example, my beta phase Mardu Hulks has 17(!) different cards that all require double of one color. I get balance, but we don't have to pigeon hole every good card to a single color. it's almost to the point of punishing going beyond splashing. I can understand making things have more color in them to stop abuse, but it's really never or it's always in favor of mono with or I noticed it especially heavy in r/w/b color scheme.

_________________
Some mages just want to watch the world burn:
Spoiler


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:02 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jan 27, 2014
Posts: 5045
If it went to the face.. yes. Target creature.. eh. It doesn't suck.. but I'm not doing backflips for it.

_________________
Drown Me In Blood - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AQXuq5-638g


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:50 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Oct 28, 2014
Posts: 4373
If it went to the face.. yes. Target creature.. eh. It doesn't suck.. but I'm not doing backflips for it.


It would be pretty busted to hit face, but we'll see what it ends up doing. It's easily top 1 or 2 of the energy cards.

_________________
^ NGA's resident embodiment of "Poe's Law".


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:09 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Feb 13, 2015
Posts: 4303
zzmorg82 wrote:
Aether Hub might help; assuming.


That card is great. So far.. it's my favorite thing to do with energy.


Not Harnessed Lightning? :confused:

inb4 "can't target PWs"


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:28 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Dec 19, 2015
Posts: 1855
I believe my favourite thing to do with energy has to be Bristling Hydra. Hexproof AND a counter? All of my yes.

_________________
My decks can be found in my deckbuilder archive. Enter here!


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:43 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Sep 09, 2015
Posts: 594
That one might see play when Polukranos rotates

_________________
"Remember: Reading the card explains the card."
- Matt Tabak


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:31 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Apr 18, 2016
Posts: 567
Location: Gotham City
jedc22 wrote:
For example, my beta phase Mardu Hulks has 17(!) different cards that all require double of one color. I get balance, but we don't have to pigeon hole every good card to a single color. it's almost to the point of punishing going beyond splashing. I can understand making things have more color in them to stop abuse, but it's really never or it's always in favor of mono with or I noticed it especially heavy in r/w/b color scheme.


Welcome to the club, the Mardu club. Prepare for frustration! (and play 4 copies of Read the Bones).

_________________
Spoiler


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:20 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jun 12, 2016
Posts: 889
If it went to the face.. yes. Target creature.. eh. It doesn't suck.. but I'm not doing backflips for it.


I'm not doing backflips altogether, don't even ask me to somersalt.

_________________
Current status : Unlocking cards!

- Steam (671 cards out of 1328), Working on : Kaladesh : 23%. {Complete Sets - Origins, BFZ, Oath of the Gatewatch}

- ios (524 cards out of 1328), Working on : Origins 6%. {Complete Sets - Kaladesh}


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:22 am 
Offline
Member

Joined: Nov 03, 2013
Posts: 7269
Location: Your Head
Identity: Im not a cat
jedc22 wrote:
For example, my beta phase Mardu Hulks has 17(!) different cards that all require double of one color. I get balance, but we don't have to pigeon hole every good card to a single color. it's almost to the point of punishing going beyond splashing. I can understand making things have more color in them to stop abuse, but it's really never or it's always in favor of mono with or I noticed it especially heavy in r/w/b color scheme.


I would assume that spell costs are balanced around competitive level Draft/Sealed/Standard, not Duels. I don't think this is the audience you are looking for. And honestly, I don't think that anyone here is going to care that you can't shove every "good" card you find into your rainbow deck.

_________________
Secretly aspires to be a Nihilist.

NGA's First Historic Tournament Champion


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:34 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Nov 10, 2013
Posts: 3347
Identity: Male
Preferred Pronoun Set: He
Well they don't go deep into combined colours in non-gold focused sets so that means doubles instead. Using doubled up colour costs is standard practice for balancing cards.

_________________
Cards have names?
Dunno about the cards but my twitch and youtube sure do: https://www.twitch.tv/wrightjustice and https://www.youtube.com/user/Wasomacosalo


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:45 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jul 29, 2015
Posts: 713
sixty4half wrote:
jedc22 wrote:
For example, my beta phase Mardu Hulks has 17(!) different cards that all require double of one color. I get balance, but we don't have to pigeon hole every good card to a single color. it's almost to the point of punishing going beyond splashing. I can understand making things have more color in them to stop abuse, but it's really never or it's always in favor of mono with or I noticed it especially heavy in r/w/b color scheme.


I would assume that spell costs are balanced around competitive level Draft/Sealed/Standard, not Duels. I don't think this is the audience you are looking for. And honestly, I don't think that anyone here is going to care that you can't shove every "good" card you find into your rainbow deck.

I've found quite the little ray of sunshine, guys!

_________________
Some mages just want to watch the world burn:
Spoiler


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:48 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Oct 28, 2014
Posts: 4373
jedc22 wrote:
I've found quite the little ray of sunshine, guys!


AHEM! :ahem: Hello, me and Brew are the current drama here. Could you please not start more?

Many thanks

_________________
^ NGA's resident embodiment of "Poe's Law".


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:55 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Dec 17, 2014
Posts: 1700
jedc22 wrote:
I've found quite the little ray of sunshine, guys!


AHEM! :ahem: Hello, me and Brew are the current drama here. Could you please not start more?

Many thanks


Drama week apparently.

/popcorn

_________________
My new Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/paradigmenigmata

Xbox Gamertag: LingeringEnigma


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:59 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Oct 28, 2014
Posts: 4373
It's always like this the week before release. We get 2 days or so worth of brewing, then silence, followed by a butting of heads over semantics.

_________________
^ NGA's resident embodiment of "Poe's Law".


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 39 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group