It is currently Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:49 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 519 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:48 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jan 19, 2014
Posts: 1151
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Here's a typical game that shows why I think it needs more removal:


Edit: Apparently, all the discussion of this deck happens at the Constructed subforum, and I totally missed it. Actually, haven't been to that subforum in a month or two, lol. Moving there.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:10 pm 
Offline
Member

Joined: Nov 18, 2013
Posts: 106
Here's my take on an EMN Gruul werewolf themed deck. The deck is meant to be fast paced and play off of flash to keep the opponent guessing, with the potential to put down devastating combos if left unchecked. We got some decent werewolf cards with the expansion, namely Waxing Moon, Kesig Prowler, and Ulrich of the Krallenhorde Let me know what your thoughts are and how to make it even more efficient at what it does.

Flash and Flip Werewolves
1cmc
Kessig Prowler x3
Neglected Heirloom x3
Primal Bellow x3- not sold
2cmc
Duskwatch Recruiterx3
Lambholt Pacifist x3
Waxing Moon x4
3cmc
Geier Reach Bandit x 2- testing
Conduit of Storms x3- testing
Tireless Tracker x2- need card draw engine
Spirit of the Hunt x2
Howlpack Resurgence x3
4cmc
Pack Guardian x3
Arlinn Kord x1
5cmc
Ulrich of the Krallenhorde

land x24
7 Mountain
12 Forest
2 Cinder Glade
2 Rootbound Crag
1 Rogues Passage


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:46 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Nov 08, 2014
Posts: 255
Identity: Male
Preferred Pronoun Set: Normal Male
stahlster wrote:
Here's my take on an EMN Gruul werewolf themed deck. The deck is meant to be fast paced and play off of flash to keep the opponent guessing, with the potential to put down devastating combos if left unchecked. We got some decent werewolf cards with the expansion, namely Waxing Moon, Kesig Prowler, and Ulrich of the Krallenhorde Let me know what your thoughts are and how to make it even more efficient at what it does.

Flash and Flip Werewolves
1cmc
Kessig Prowler x3
Neglected Heirloom x3
Primal Bellow x3- not sold
2cmc
Duskwatch Recruiterx3
Lambholt Pacifist x3
Waxing Moon x4
3cmc
Geier Reach Bandit x 2- testing
Conduit of Storms x3- testing
Tireless Tracker x2- need card draw engine
Spirit of the Hunt x2
Howlpack Resurgence x3
4cmc
Pack Guardian x3
Arlinn Kord x1
5cmc
Ulrich of the Krallenhorde

land x24
7 Mountain
12 Forest
2 Cinder Glade
2 Rootbound Crag
1 Rogues Passage

YOu may want some removals like rabbid bites in this.
maybe some Silverfur Partisans over neglected heirlooms and Lambholt?

_________________
Your Tears Fuel Me E . · '/· . F


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:39 pm 
Offline
Member

Joined: Nov 18, 2013
Posts: 106
I do like the partisans...they may go in over the conduits actually. I would hate to remove any of the 2 drops...this deck wants to put heat on by turn 3 and really turn it up turn 4. Silver fur is more of a turn 5 and 6 card...still has good utility by protecting itself, but the deck would need to add the rabid bites to really maximize it.

I've had some amazing plays from heirloom thus far. A T1 kessig, T2 heirloom, T3 waxing moon has the opponent down to 10 health with a 7/7 on the board.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:35 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Nov 08, 2014
Posts: 255
Identity: Male
Preferred Pronoun Set: Normal Male
stahlster wrote:
I do like the partisans...they may go in over the conduits actually. I would hate to remove any of the 2 drops...this deck wants to put heat on by turn 3 and really turn it up turn 4. Silver fur is more of a turn 5 and 6 card...still has good utility by protecting itself, but the deck would need to add the rabid bites to really maximize it.

I've had some amazing plays from heirloom thus far. A T1 kessig, T2 heirloom, T3 waxing moon has the opponent down to 10 health with a 7/7 on the board.

I got combo'd hard by that ugly Werewolf King thing and waxing moon :(

_________________
Your Tears Fuel Me E . · '/· . F


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 10:46 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jul 28, 2015
Posts: 5102
Identity: Male
Preferred Pronoun Set: uhhhhh
Everyone is playing all these complex theme decks and I'm just beating face with good ole Gruul monsters.

_________________
KLD Season King of the Hill Winner.
EMN Season King of the Hill Winner.

The one true King of NGA Magic Duels on Xbox One.

You want some? Come get some. You don't like me? Bite me.

Day 1,000 of the never-ending Vert monarchy.

viewtopic.php?f=38&t=16077

Magic's a simple game, 2 people take turns playing cards and in the end Divinevert wins 2-0...


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:22 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jan 27, 2014
Posts: 5045
divinevert wrote:
Everyone is playing all these complex theme decks and I'm just beating face with good ole Gruul monsters.


Care to share a list?

_________________
Drown Me In Blood - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AQXuq5-638g


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:31 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jul 28, 2015
Posts: 5102
Identity: Male
Preferred Pronoun Set: uhhhhh
divinevert wrote:
Everyone is playing all these complex theme decks and I'm just beating face with good ole Gruul monsters.


Care to share a list?


Phone posting so not pretty but

3 goblin glory chaser
3 kessig prowler
3 lightning axe
4 Titans strength
2 Sylvan advocate
3 Duskwatch Recruiter
3 lambholt pacifist
2 hanweir garrison
2 tireless tracker
2 exquisite firecraft
2 collective defiance
1 Nissa, Voice of Zendikar
1 akoum firebird
2 impetuous devils
2 Mina and Denn, wildborn
1 arlinn kord
1 Ulrich of the Krallenhorde
11 mountain
7 forest
2 Cinder glade
2 rootbound crag
1 hanweir battlements

_________________
KLD Season King of the Hill Winner.
EMN Season King of the Hill Winner.

The one true King of NGA Magic Duels on Xbox One.

You want some? Come get some. You don't like me? Bite me.

Day 1,000 of the never-ending Vert monarchy.

viewtopic.php?f=38&t=16077

Magic's a simple game, 2 people take turns playing cards and in the end Divinevert wins 2-0...


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:35 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jan 27, 2014
Posts: 5045
That's like.. totally not the Gruul monsters I was imagining lol.. but it is a nice, lower curve Gruul kinda Aggro/Goodstuff list. Not bad.

_________________
Drown Me In Blood - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AQXuq5-638g


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:45 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jul 28, 2015
Posts: 5102
Identity: Male
Preferred Pronoun Set: uhhhhh
That's like.. totally not the Gruul monsters I was imagining lol.. but it is a nice, lower curve Gruul kinda Aggro/Goodstuff list. Not bad.

Yeah, it's less midrangey than most gruul monsters decks, but I think it's more consistent this way.

_________________
KLD Season King of the Hill Winner.
EMN Season King of the Hill Winner.

The one true King of NGA Magic Duels on Xbox One.

You want some? Come get some. You don't like me? Bite me.

Day 1,000 of the never-ending Vert monarchy.

viewtopic.php?f=38&t=16077

Magic's a simple game, 2 people take turns playing cards and in the end Divinevert wins 2-0...


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:41 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Nov 09, 2013
Posts: 1648
Location: Wroclaw, Poland
I like it, but why no Chandra?


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:27 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jul 28, 2015
Posts: 5102
Identity: Male
Preferred Pronoun Set: uhhhhh
Auunj wrote:
I like it, but why no Chandra?


23 lands would make supporting a 6 drop very difficult

_________________
KLD Season King of the Hill Winner.
EMN Season King of the Hill Winner.

The one true King of NGA Magic Duels on Xbox One.

You want some? Come get some. You don't like me? Bite me.

Day 1,000 of the never-ending Vert monarchy.

viewtopic.php?f=38&t=16077

Magic's a simple game, 2 people take turns playing cards and in the end Divinevert wins 2-0...


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:05 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Dec 19, 2015
Posts: 1855
divinevert wrote:
divinevert wrote:
Everyone is playing all these complex theme decks and I'm just beating face with good ole Gruul monsters.


Care to share a list?


Phone posting so not pretty but

3 goblin glory chaser
3 kessig prowler
3 lightning axe
4 Titans strength
2 Sylvan advocate
3 Duskwatch Recruiter
3 lambholt pacifist
2 hanweir garrison
2 tireless tracker
2 exquisite firecraft
2 collective defiance
1 Nissa, Voice of Zendikar
1 akoum firebird
2 impetuous devils
2 Mina and Denn, wildborn
1 arlinn kord
1 Ulrich of the Krallenhorde
11 mountain
7 forest
2 Cinder glade
2 rootbound crag
1 hanweir battlements


Interesting thought. I have built mono-G Stompy a couple days ago and found it decent - maybe some of Gs consistency is what Red needs nowadays to stay competitive.

_________________
My decks can be found in my deckbuilder archive. Enter here!


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:15 am 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jul 28, 2015
Posts: 5102
Identity: Male
Preferred Pronoun Set: uhhhhh
I do wonder if I'd be better served cutting 3x Lightning Axe and 1x Titan's Strength for 4x Galvanic Bombardment, though. Usually by the time 5 damage becomes necessary, I can get wide enough to finish the job (or I've faced multiple sweepers or something and I'm just doomed already)

_________________
KLD Season King of the Hill Winner.
EMN Season King of the Hill Winner.

The one true King of NGA Magic Duels on Xbox One.

You want some? Come get some. You don't like me? Bite me.

Day 1,000 of the never-ending Vert monarchy.

viewtopic.php?f=38&t=16077

Magic's a simple game, 2 people take turns playing cards and in the end Divinevert wins 2-0...


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 2:29 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Mar 18, 2016
Posts: 5359
Location: Anyway the wind blows
Identity: doesnt really matter
Preferred Pronoun Set: to me
divinevert wrote:

Phone posting so not pretty but
Spoiler


I gave this a spin online because it's so different from other builds I've seen you do, but the game absolutely did not want me to have a good time with your build.

I played 4 games in vs with it. 3 of the 4 I had to mulligan down into a concession (don't bother to play with less than 4 cards in starting hand) because it wanted to give me no land or only land... Some people were prob happy to get the easy gold... The one game I didn't mulligan myself out of was nice and I thought the deck was pretty fun in a straightforward beatdown sort of way. Blaming bad luck and not the deck because the land doesn't look like it should be a problem, but it was crazy bad luck. 75% failure rate to even make it out the gate was nuts. Never had that happen before. :party:

_________________
Duels Decklists, updated 10/03/19

Yes I’m fine with killing women and children.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:44 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Jul 28, 2015
Posts: 5102
Identity: Male
Preferred Pronoun Set: uhhhhh
divinevert wrote:

Phone posting so not pretty but
Spoiler


I gave this a spin online because it's so different from other builds I've seen you do, but the game absolutely did not want me to have a good time with your build.

I played 4 games in vs with it. 3 of the 4 I had to mulligan down into a concession (don't bother to play with less than 4 cards in starting hand) because it wanted to give me no land or only land... Some people were prob happy to get the easy gold... The one game I didn't mulligan myself out of was nice and I thought the deck was pretty fun in a straightforward beatdown sort of way. Blaming bad luck and not the deck because the land doesn't look like it should be a problem, but it was crazy bad luck. 75% failure rate to even make it out the gate was nuts. Never had that happen before. :party:


Well, that's a shame. Yeah, it's super straightforward which I think is what makes it fun. Gruul is one of my favorite aggro build types.

I've had games where I get stuck at 3-4 lands, but the deck can usually still win in that area, but I blame the shuffler monster. Probably hacking.

_________________
KLD Season King of the Hill Winner.
EMN Season King of the Hill Winner.

The one true King of NGA Magic Duels on Xbox One.

You want some? Come get some. You don't like me? Bite me.

Day 1,000 of the never-ending Vert monarchy.

viewtopic.php?f=38&t=16077

Magic's a simple game, 2 people take turns playing cards and in the end Divinevert wins 2-0...


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:35 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Mar 18, 2016
Posts: 5359
Location: Anyway the wind blows
Identity: doesnt really matter
Preferred Pronoun Set: to me
Damned hackers! I didn't delete it yet and will revisit at some point when I feel like power leveling. Just needed a break after getting trolled so hard by the shuffler. Your deck basically tops out at 4, there's no way I should have had any problems. A game of all/no land here or there is whatever, but almost 3 times in a row is just stupid.

_________________
Duels Decklists, updated 10/03/19

Yes I’m fine with killing women and children.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:08 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: May 05, 2015
Posts: 2821
Location: zz
Identity: Nah.
Preferred Pronoun Set: ---
Damned hackers! I didn't delete it yet and will revisit at some point when I feel like power leveling. Just needed a break after getting trolled so hard by the shuffler. Your deck basically tops out at 4, there's no way I should have had any problems. A game of all/no land here or there is whatever, but almost 3 times in a row is just stupid.


That's brainless Stainless's shuffler for you. :party:

_________________
GameCenter ID: zzmorg82_

Link to my smilies: https://imgur.com/a/HJMsX


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:38 pm 
Offline
Member

Joined: Mar 31, 2016
Posts: 47
Just got to rank 40 with this midrange list, it's been pretty smooth.

2x Sylvan Advocate
2x Longtusk Cub
3x Voltaic Brawler
3x Harnessed Lightning
2x Smuggler's Copter

1x Nissa, Vastwood Seer
2x Tireless Tracker
2x Lathnu Hellion
3x Thopter Engineer
2x Fiery Temper

2x Bristling Hydra
2x Pia and Kiran Nalaar
1x Chandra, Torch of Defiance
2x Fleetwheel Cruiser

1x Verdurous Gearhulk
1x Nissa, Vital Force
1x Skysovereign, Consul Flagship

1x Woodland Bellower
1x Ulvenwald Hydra
1x Chandra, Flamecaller

(25 lands total)
6x Mountain
6x Forest
2x Cinder Glade
2x Rootbound Crag
1x Geier Reach Sanitarium
1x Rogue's Passage
3x Aether Hub
4x Evolving Wilds

It's straightforward. Against fast aggro decks, grind them out and beat with power and value of 4+ drops. Against slower decks, go to town with 2 drops and hasty vehicles.

I've included standard green pack of Sylvan Advocate and Tireless Tracker, as I didn't want to cripple myself too badly. The worst and most replacable 2 drop is Longtusk Cub. I like playing with this card, and sometimes it can perform well, but after first few turns it's usually a dead drop.

Because of Smuggler's Copter looting capabilities, I've decide to put 2 copies of Fiery Temper for some additional reach and value. I added 1 Geier Reach Sanitarium to compliment that. Also, some card selection is always nice. Harnessed Lightning is a great piece of removal as well.

As of 3 drops, Lathnu Hellion is a discussable choice. It's decent as a sweeper recovery or planeswalker revenge killer, and 2 energy is always useful. Thopter Engineer is just good all around and synergizes with many other cards.

All 4+ drops are cards that are supposed to take over the game quickly if left unchecked, with Pia and Kiran Nalaar and Woodland Bellower being board stabilizers. Hasted Skysovereign, Consul Flagship usually wins the game on the spot. Ulvenwald Hydra is just a very solid 6 drop and can fetch Rogue's Passage. I guess that Combustible Gearhulk would also be a decent choice.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:16 am 
Offline
Member

Joined: Feb 08, 2016
Posts: 1
Nice list. Gonna try it with some modifications. Big Green Color fan here!


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 519 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group