I know they changed the rules in SOI to make this harder, but I think there's still a way to do it and I want to see if I can still double transform.



Two scenarios I want the answer to.
These could be for any DFC non-eldrazi werewolf, but for the sake of having a specific example lets say its Instigator Gang // Wildblood Pack.

Scenario 1)I have a Wildblood Pack and a Strionic Resonator. My opponent casts two spells during a turn. On the next turn the Wildblood pack transformation trigger goes on the stack and in response to it I activate Strionic Resonator. The copied trigger resolves transforming the werewolf into Instigator Gang. What happens when the original trigger tries to resolve?

I'm pretty sure the rules here say explicitly that since the werewolf transformed once while the original trigger was already on the stack that it can't transform again.


Scenario 2)I have a Wildblood Pack and TWO Strionic Resonators. My opponent casts two spells during a turn. On the next turn the Wildblood pack transformation trigger goes on the stack and in response to it I activate the first Strionic Resonator. I let the first strionic resonator copied ability resolve transforming the werewolf into Instigator Gang. I then activate the second strionic resonator, again targetting the original transformation trigger. What happens when the second copied trigger tries to resolve?

Since I created the second copy after the werewolf had already transformed once does the second copied trigger make the werewolf transform again? Or did the second copied trigger also copy the original trigger's tracking information on whether the werewolf had already transformed since it was put on the stack?

Correct.



The second copied trigger will transform it again. It's a separate ability that wasn't on the stack yet when the first copied trigger transformed it.

Oh, that only applies to activated and triggered abilities? Does this mean that copying a Waxing Moon will cause a Werewolf to transform twice?

Yes.

The intent is that, if the front face of a card says to transform it, that means to transform it into the back face (and vice versa). For cards like Archangel Avacyn, this rules change was necessary, since it would otherwise keep going back and forth. For cards like Elusive Tormentor, the idea is that it has an ability to turn into mist, and turning into mist even more shouldn't make it corporeal; you instead need to use the Insidious Mist ability to do that.

If a convoluted scenario with two Strionic Resonators lets you get around this, that's okay. It's not something likely to arise in an actual game.

Double-transforming via spells is also okay. Waxing Moon can transform Werewolves in either direction, so applying the effect twice will put the Werewolf back how it was. Moonmist, on the other hand, can only transform Humans, so it won't transform a non-Human back into a Human (it could transform a Human into a different kind of Human and back). So the restriction on what it applies to already stops the wrong kinds of double-transforming there.

Thank you!