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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:56 pm 
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Hmmm given Blue has just one mythic, are we guessing one mythic per colour this time for us with Tamiyo, Emy and Gisa/Geralf to make 8? My guess would be:

- White = Gisela (confirmed)
- Blue = Mind's Dilation
- Black = Liliana (confirmed)
- Red = Mirrorwing (confirmed)
- Green = Ishkanah
- Multi = Gisa (confirmed), Tamiyo (kinda obvious but not confirmed), Ulrich
- Colourless = Emy

The emerge Boar is confirmed too so it's just a matter of where it fits. Probably the green mythic which means no spider if we don't just get both.

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I'd just like to point out that this enchantment is obviously not meant to be a control card, unlike most counters. This would not go in a control deck, it's meant to be put in a tempo deck and suits delirium fairly well.

A tempo deck using it's 3 drop to place a card that doesn't advance the board isn't doing itself any favors.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:58 pm 
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Totally agree here. You know how annoying that card is to a Control deck early? Do I lose my Telling Time, my Declaration in Stone, or my own counter spell? If it gets played in an aggressive shell, Lunar Force could actually be up there for best counter against Control decks.


So what you're saying is that it's a counterspell where I get to choose what thing gets countered.

How great. Way better than just holding an actual counterspell.



So what you're doing is basically this: You said card sucks because X. I argue why it's not quite simple as you tried to imply because Y, Z, and your response it's to just simply ignore all the points I made and reapeat that card sucks because X. Wow, you really are a genius showing the "obvious things" to us plebs.



You list a bunch of corner cases, many of which are still strictly worse than just holding a 3 mana counter in your hand. Yes, it does those things. We agree.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/magicduels/comments/4rvz31/eldritch_moon_news_coming_soon/

As many of us expected, we aren't getting Emrakul.

Edit: also we should get a release date on Monday and confirmed Duels card list on Wednesday.

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Which is fine; this means they can give us old Emerakul. :plot: /s

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divinevert wrote:
Sir_Shadow wrote:
I'd just like to point out that this enchantment is obviously not meant to be a control card, unlike most counters. This would not go in a control deck, it's meant to be put in a tempo deck and suits delirium fairly well.
A tempo deck using it's 3 drop to place a card that doesn't advance the board isn't doing itself any favors.
Then you clearly don't play tempo decks. You're reading this card wrong. This isn't "counter the next spell your opponent plays" it's "force your opponent to discard a card and pay its mana cost". The point is to disrupt the flow of your opponent's hand not to simply counter a spell.


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I wonder what people find most entertaining. The obviously whiney crybabies or the obviously arrogant bullies.

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Sjokwaave wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicduels/comments/4rvz31/eldritch_moon_news_coming_soon/

As many of us expected, we aren't getting Emrakul.

Edit: also we should get a release date on Monday and confirmed Duels card list on Wednesday.

Not terribly shocking. And while she could have been shenanigans, she was actually pretty tricky for me to wrap my mind around if she was very good or not, so I'll deal.

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Sir_Shadow wrote:
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Sir_Shadow wrote:
I'd just like to point out that this enchantment is obviously not meant to be a control card, unlike most counters. This would not go in a control deck, it's meant to be put in a tempo deck and suits delirium fairly well.
A tempo deck using it's 3 drop to place a card that doesn't advance the board isn't doing itself any favors.
Then you clearly don't play tempo decks. You're reading this card wrong. This isn't "counter the next spell your opponent plays" it's "force your opponent to discard a card and pay its mana cost". The point is to disrupt the flow of your opponent's hand not to simply counter a spell.


Honestly, the biggest problem is that it's just too expensive. I'd play it at 2 CMC and not a dime more. It's not getting played over any 3 drop I've currently got access to in tempo, and I haven't even checked what else might be available from the new set to push it further out.

I may/will try it in an enchantment deck, but that's really it.

Tempo should take a close look at this:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:04 pm 
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Well that's a big bummer for Delirium control :(


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Sjokwaave wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicduels/comments/4rvz31/eldritch_moon_news_coming_soon/

As many of us expected, we aren't getting Emrakul.

Edit: also we should get a release date on Monday and confirmed Duels card list on Wednesday.
Damn them to heck. At least they confirmed Tamiyo... which was pretty much a given anyways. Decimator probably fits into the colorless slot now so that means green is probably getting the spider.

@DJ: Yeah, I'd prefer it were a 2-drop, but eh.


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Sjokwaave wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicduels/comments/4rvz31/eldritch_moon_news_coming_soon/

As many of us expected, we aren't getting Emrakul.

Edit: also we should get a release date on Monday and confirmed Duels card list on Wednesday.

Shame but it makes sense. This probably means the emerge Boar fits as the colourless mythic instead then which means we still have room for the spider.

This also confirms Tamiyo and Imprisoned in the Moon.

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I wonder what people find most entertaining. The obviously whiney crybabies or the obviously arrogant bullies.

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If disagreeing about a card is bullying to you, I don't even know what to say. I probably am arrogant, but I'm not attacking anyone beyond saying "no this opinion is wrong".

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tsk tsk we all remember your choice of words the last time we disagreed. It had to be cleaned up. Let's leave it in the past, k bruh ?

On topic.

How good is a 4 mana ball lightning these days? Solid curve topper no ?


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I wonder what people find most entertaining. The obviously whiney crybabies or the obviously arrogant bullies.

:thumbsup:

Thank you, it's good to be back.


If you consider making a case for a card "crybaby whining" and making a case against it "bullying", ironically enough you're the only one here who actually sounds like both of those things. lmao

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tsk tsk we all remember your choice of words the last time we disagreed. It had to be cleaned up. Let's leave it in the past, k bruh ?

On topic.

How good is a 4 mana ball lightning these days?

I actually don't at all, but okay.

And what color is the Ball Lightning in? If red, probably yes, good, because we're hurting for big burn.

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divinevert wrote:
tsk tsk we all remember your choice of words the last time we disagreed. It had to be cleaned up. Let's leave it in the past, k bruh ?

On topic.

How good is a 4 mana ball lightning these days?

I actually don't at all, but okay.

And what color is the Ball Lightning in? If red, probably yes, good, because we're hurting for big burn.


It's 2RR for a ball lightning that forces opponent to block it with at least one creature. Sounds good to me.

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Yup it's red and rare.

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I don't know if it's gonna be enough, but we may get some other playable burn as well, so this might knoock of a turn off the clock of the format perhaps?


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yeah it was red, 3 red mana and 1 colourless for a 6/1 trample that suicide bombs in end phase. Fun card.

Man, this drama is nothing like the good ol' days here :(


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Man, this drama is nothing like the good ol' days here :(


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