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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:15 pm 
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I'm betting Emrakul will be campaign only. Just to give us a taste, but no chance of playing her buggedness in constructed pvp...
It's one of their flagship cards, I think they will hard pressed not to make it available.
That's my thought on the matter. They had Ulamog and Kozilek in their sets. It would be hard for them to justify not including Emrakul.

I do imagine Wizard's will try their best to get Stainless to put Emrakul in despite promises since Tithes. though if she does end up story only then it's likely she will be the Lilliana final boss fight, maybe with other walkers coming in to help like in the OGW story.
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Already seen this last week but yeah it does seem pretty neat.

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Well this card looks kinda sick.

Cheap stuff to sacrifice.


Another good discard outlet.

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Well this card looks kinda sick.

Cheap stuff to sacrifice.


Another good discard outlet.


I prefer cryptbreaker. 2/2 for 4cmc even with the token just doesn't get me that excited... I really want to try out a zombie deck when we get the update, but building decks without knowing which cards we get such seems like a waste of time...

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Hey guys was just looking at summary dismissal. Does that counter ulamog's exile effect if you play it vs him or does that not count as an ability? Just wondering if that is the anti eldrazi card we need but not the one we deserve.

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Hey guys was just looking at summary dismissal. Does that counter ulamog's exile effect if you play it vs him or does that not count as an ability? Just wondering if that is the anti eldrazi card we need but not the one we deserve.


Ulamog's exile effect is a triggered ability, so yes, if you cast Summary Dismissal while it's on the stack, it would not resolve.

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Summary Dismissal could be used to counter ultimate'ing a Planeswalker, too, correct?

They sacrifice Ob Nixilis with 8 counters to get an emblem, you cast Summary Dismissal, they get nothing and like it.

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Summary Dismissal could be used to counter ultimate'ing a Planeswalker, too, correct?

They sacrifice Ob Nixilis with 8 counters to get an emblem, you cast Summary Dismissal, they get nothing and like it.

Yep, it's pretty much a stack wrath and counters all things on the stack whether it be by exiling the spell (getting around "can't be countered" at that) or outright countering any card abilities. It won't usually be a wrath mind you but it was surely made to counteract all the on cast abilities the Eldrazi have by both exiling the Eldrazi off the stack and then nullifying their abilities; no Ulamog exile, no Emrakul mindslave and no Kozilek super draw.

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It's such a useful tool for blue-based control. Between that and Unsubstantiate, if we get both, blue doesn't NEED a ton of cards to remain competitive.

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I think this will probably be what I use over confirm suspicions if we get it. There are a lot of creatures that have spell based non prowess effects for blue this expansion. I hope we get most of them I wouldn't mind making a spell based effects deck like last year. I remember izzet young pyromancer + talrand, sky summoner and that goblin that did shock to the face when you casted a spell was a nightmare to face.

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I think this will probably be what I use over confirm suspicions if we get it. There are a lot of creatures that have spell based non prowess effects for blue this expansion. I hope we get most of them I wouldn't mind making a spell based effects deck like last year. I remember izzet young pyromancer + talrand, sky summoner and that goblin that did shock to the face when you casted a spell was a nightmare to face.

Dunno if I can cut Confirm Suspicions. That card wins games. This card, while amazing, is not going to suddenly refill your hand. Most times, this will just be working as a hard counter.

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So Warping Wail is going to have some new targets. :plot:

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So Warping Wail is going to have some new targets. :plot:



Isn't the card they are discussing an instant

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I still think Emrakul is way more likely to come than not. Doesn't matter if they can't code it right, they will try to put it in the pool and bother about the bugs afterwards. They need the flagship card of the Set (heck, it was the very first officially spoiled card, a whole week before preview season).

My bets for the Mythics (the rules I'm following are: all the PWs and flagship cards, at least 1 Mythic for each color and 10 Mythics for large Sets, 8 for small Sets).

Gisela, the Broken Blade (confirmed) (White slot)
The Zombie Bros (Gisa and Geralf) (confirmed) (Blue slot)
Liliana, the Last Hope (confirmed) (Black slot)
Tamiyo, Field Researcher (pretty much confirmed) (extra slot)
Craterhoof Boarhemoth (Decimator of Provinces) (confirmed) (Green slot)
Emrakul, the Promised End (extra slot)
Mirrorwing Dragon (Red slot)
Ulrich of the Krallenhorde (extra slot)

I can see Grim Flayer getting in instead of Ulrich or the Dragon (making Ulrich the Red Mythic), but those are the ones I think are more likely.

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:O Jaya Balard mentioned in the flavor of that card. Can we finally expect more of her? I hope so.

She dead bro.

Well actually there is evidence to suggest that the Jodah who told us this is from an alternate reality. So until we see an actual body, she is categorized as MIA


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Sir_Shadow wrote:
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:O Jaya Balard mentioned in the flavor of that card. Can we finally expect more of her? I hope so.

She dead bro.

Well actually there is evidence to suggest that the Jodah who told us this is from an alternate reality. So until we see an actual body, she is categorized as MIA
It's been WAY too long. She's just a human. I'm not saying she was killed or anything, but planeswalkers die of old age now.


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I still think Emrakul is way more likely to come than not. Doesn't matter if they can't code it right, they will try to put it in the pool and bother about the bugs afterwards. They need the flagship card of the Set (heck, it was the very first officially spoiled card, a whole week before preview season).

My bets for the Mythics (the rules I'm following are: all the PWs and flagship cards, at least 1 Mythic for each color and 10 Mythics for large Sets, 8 for small Sets).

Gisela, the Broken Blade (confirmed) (White slot)
The Zombie Bros (Gisa and Geralf) (confirmed) (Blue slot)
Liliana, the Last Hope (confirmed) (Black slot)
Tamiyo, Field Researcher (pretty much confirmed) (extra slot)
Craterhoof Boarhemoth (Decimator of Provinces) (confirmed) (Green slot)
Emrakul, the Promised End (extra slot)
Mirrorwing Dragon (Red slot)
Ulrich of the Krallenhorde (extra slot)

I can see Grim Flayer getting in instead of Ulrich or the Dragon (making Ulrich the Red Mythic), but those are the ones I think are more likely.

DFCs have their own slots so there's 14 mythics in EMN instead of typical (new) 12 for small set, that should mean Gisela doesn't count as the white mythic since she is a DFC and should have her own slot like Ulrich.
I think Ulrich and Gisela are the only 2 mythic DFC cards in the set but they're different kinds of DFC and it's not out of the question to get both.

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I still think Emrakul is way more likely to come than not. Doesn't matter if they can't code it right, they will try to put it in the pool and bother about the bugs afterwards. They need the flagship card of the Set (heck, it was the very first officially spoiled card, a whole week before preview season).

My bets for the Mythics (the rules I'm following are: all the PWs and flagship cards, at least 1 Mythic for each color and 10 Mythics for large Sets, 8 for small Sets).

Gisela, the Broken Blade (confirmed) (White slot)
The Zombie Bros (Gisa and Geralf) (confirmed) (Blue slot)
Liliana, the Last Hope (confirmed) (Black slot)
Tamiyo, Field Researcher (pretty much confirmed) (extra slot)
Craterhoof Boarhemoth (Decimator of Provinces) (confirmed) (Green slot)
Emrakul, the Promised End (extra slot)
Mirrorwing Dragon (Red slot)
Ulrich of the Krallenhorde (extra slot)

I can see Grim Flayer getting in instead of Ulrich or the Dragon (making Ulrich the Red Mythic), but those are the ones I think are more likely.
Gisa and Geralf are a Blue/Black card, so it's not gonna take up the Blue Slot.

I also doubt Gisela will take up the white slot since she's a special meld card, much like how Tazri wasn't White's and instead something like a conflux card.


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She dead bro.

Well actually there is evidence to suggest that the Jodah who told us this is from an alternate reality. So until we see an actual body, she is categorized as MIA
It's been WAY too long. She's just a human. I'm not saying she was killed or anything, but planeswalkers die of old age now.

so do Kor and yet Nahiri is still alive

I'm not saying she is alive just saying the writers can bring her back if they want


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Well actually there is evidence to suggest that the Jodah who told us this is from an alternate reality. So until we see an actual body, she is categorized as MIA
It's been WAY too long. She's just a human. I'm not saying she was killed or anything, but planeswalkers die of old age now.

so do Kor and yet Nahiri is still alive

I'm not saying she is alive just saying the writers can bring her back if they want
Nahiri was trapped in the Hellvault, and her powers didn't actually go away from the Mending until she was released. I suppose it could be argued that Jaya could have also fell into some kind of temporal trap or something, but I kinda doubt it. At least, I would be disappointed if they hand-waved it away like that.


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Sir_Shadow wrote:
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:O Jaya Balard mentioned in the flavor of that card. Can we finally expect more of her? I hope so.

She dead bro.

Well actually there is evidence to suggest that the Jodah who told us this is from an alternate reality. So until we see an actual body, she is categorized as MIA


I would be so hyped if Jaya Ballard is somehow still alive and burning faces off while casually tossing witty quips. So much great flavor text...

"Some have said there is no subtlety to destruction. You know what? They're dead." Inferno
"Overkill? This isn't a game of Kick-the-Ouphe!" Lava Burst
"Eenie, meenie, minie, moe... oh, why not all of them?" Meteor Shower
"Anybody want some... toast?" Pyrokinesis
"Of course you should fight fire with fire. You should fight everything with fire." Sizzle


Toss in an undead/golem/alternate universe Urza and we'll be all set. :angel:

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