she's good in any deck with b and creatures, yeah real specific

The third time she eats a rare/mythic noncreature spell more powerful/useful than herself you're going to ragequit and go straight to the deck editor.
If you're not running any noncreature spells more powerful/useful than her then yes, that's a very specific kind of deck and I doubt it's a good one.

I'll be more than happy to eat my words if they reprint Snappy at common.

The third time she eats a rare/mythic noncreature spell more powerful/useful than herself you're going to ragequit and go straight to the deck editor.
If you're not running any noncreature spells more powerful/useful than her then yes, that's a very specific kind of deck and I doubt it's a good one.

I'll be more than happy to eat my words if they reprint Snappy at common.

honestly if you're worried about dumping an instant/sorcery guess what, you can run Baby Jace a card that happens to be a creature Liliana can save :o and she actively helps him flip? :o

Like white needed more good, playable, cheap creatures... I bet this really ruins a control players day if the sweepers he has in hand are Planar outburst or Radiant Flames.

At least its splashable... 2/1 evasive and Lets you over extend with less risk... Any aggro deck with White can and will use this.

Then you're a better human than I am

I even removed Duskwatch Recruiter from my Bant Midrange because of that crap, and that's running 24 creatures.

Then you're a better human than I am

I even removed Duskwatch Recruiter from my Bant Midrange because of that crap, and that's running 24 creatures.

Guys, it's not confirmation bias. If you're running a card that can dump your other cards in the GY it will do just that, and that's not a random occurrence it's a deckbuilding decision.

I understand that you may not care... if the upside was worth it, or if the deck was specifically built with it in mind.

Guys, it's not confirmation bias.

Zombie tribal is looking better every day, now just imagine if they added an actual playable zombie creature.

This version of Lili is playable (heck, I built a paper deck that makes good use of Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded), but the question of how playable is definitely up in the air. Seems like they're being extra careful with their 3-mana 'walkers these days. I might have preferred her at 4 mana with a bit more oomph. Her oath, on the other hand, is perfectly playable if you're running any planeswalkers (otherwise it makes awkward Fleshbag Marauder #4 & 5).


The new white spirit looks pretty good.

Glancing over the spoiled cards so far, it seems like B/R vampires are getting some love and support, and maybe zombies will be a thing if we get any decent cheap zombies. Spirits deserve to be a thing based on the lack of support they have as a tribe across Magic's past. Humans have enough love, but I'm sure they'll keep getting more. Too early to call on werewolves right now.

except unless you see every card in your deck milling a card you can't return is no different then having it on the bottom of your deck, it's the text book example of your deck being a random pile of cards

I wondered if they were gonna print a Oath of Liliana, wish came true , liliana is ok least she doesn't have discard ability.

Umm... besides all the ones already in it? BU zombies is already a thing.

Erm....
Maybe this whole discussion was just a case of where you set the bar for playable cards...