Hey, she's a 3 mana walker; that is pretty good by its lonesome. And the +1 being removal is nice, even if she only targets small dudes.
She does not fit a strict control deck, but Planeswalker Midrange will play her, as will Sultai and Abzan shells.

The Oath ain't great, but ensuring protection for a planeswalker is decent as is the Edict effect. This one's more for the control decks, though it is sorcery-speed only.

Totally brewing Abzan Control btw; especially with the spider. Love me some spiders!

Well, Emrakul takes your turn, and you get zombies. Then you take your extra turn and strike back with those zombies. So, yeah... maybe?

Okay so Lily isn't quite everything I hoped and dreamed for but I think you're all being pretty harsh here. I mean -2/-2 as a +1 is is damned fine... wait what? It's -2/-1? So I can barely kill anything with it? Oh. Well that kinda sucks.

But hey -2 to self-mill and res a creature is amazing! I mean... what? It's just return it to hand? Oh. That's less amazing. Huh... How about her ultimate?

Infinite zombies? I love infinite zombies! I mean yes it rolls over and cries when hit by just about every sweeper we have in the game and you're looking at like turn 8 minimum before you generate even a single zombie and... and... okay you know what the card is kinda crappy. Damn it Wizards.

So the Oath is good yeah? Oh it's Fleshbag Marauder. Except without having a 3/1 body. Or that ability to be abused with reanimation shenanigans. Or being part of a theoretical zombie tribal. And it can, on rare occasion, generate a single 2/2 Zombie...

Okay so the Oath kinda sucks as well, even by the standards of the kinda sucky oaths (looking at you Jace). On the upside the flavour text on the Oath tickles me.

I think this is the power level that PW should have. Sure she isn't tremendously exciting... but in a format with no real PW removal she is right where she should be.

Despite all the nitpicking she is playable. Our expectations for PW are just too high because some of them are overpowered.

Selfless Soul
1W - Rare
Creature - Spirit
Flying

Sacrifice Selfless Soul: Creatures you control gain indestructible until end of turn.

2/1

This card just shows that Liliana isn't even putting effort into shoving Emrakul into the moon. It's disturbing really.

EDIT: Easy access to indestructible? Makes exile and the -X/-X cards all the more relevant.

Planeswalkers themselves aren't "overpowered"; it's just that there's not that many ways to take care of them in the meta, which is what makes them so strong.

As for the new Liliana, I think she's decent. Her +1 is, situationally, better than Jace, Vryn's Prodigy's +1 at times. Her -2 has the ability to get back any creature from your graveyard which is decent, and her ultimate is pretty strong and could win games in a grindy match over time. I could see her going in a Crats - type deck or delirium.

Her Oath is decent as well; not sure if you would run it in Superfriends though with all the board wipes in the deck.

It's official, Wizard hates black and we'll get more 3 months of GW domination. Lili of the last Hope seems really underwhelming, the +1 doesn't really kill much except rangers or mono white 2/1s and the -2 requires at least 20 creatures to be somewhat decent. She is a 3 mana walker but she doesnt snowball advantage like Nissa. Why cant you give us LOTV?
The Oath seems better. 3 mana eddict isnt horrendous and if you can milk 2 zombies or more out of it its a great deal.

Feels like a sideboard card to me if anything.

The one good thing about the new Lili: She's only 3 CMC.

Shame the Oath doesn't produce a zombie per turn for each Planeswalker but that would probably be too much for 3 mana, plus I think it is technically the best one. Liliana does seems kinda meh but she's a planeswlaker and I'm sure she will get tested. I think she's the wrong colours to be so cheap and she probably needed to be at least 4 mana so her abilities could be a bit better like -3/-2 or something.

This is legit good in W Weenie as well as in Spirits (if that is ever a deck). Maybe even Bant Tempo. Looks really strong.

Maybe I'm missing something... how is she playable?
Her +1 just plain sucks monkey balls.
Her -2... just plain sucks monkey balls, unless maybe you're playing 100% creatures or running Snapcaster Mages.
Her ultimate... yeah you guessed it.

Please explain?

Well the thing is, in a PW heavy deck, you're probably not wiping the board the same turn you drop a PW. The Oath keeps away whatever the opponent played the previous turn, instead of having to remove the threat before you play the PW. It speeds up the tempo one turn, kind of like Gideon's does. Even if it's not a zombie you'd re-use it's still useful.

Plus it's a mini-wipe of its own. So it's probably as useful as Oath of Chandra for keeping down the opponent creatures. I like the zombie better than the 3 to the face - the 3 is possible irrelevant compared to the deck's other win conditions, and the zombie could continue to be useful.

I don't know how many spirits are needed to make them a deck, but cheap Azorius fliers is definitely a deck and this card is glorious!

or you know... white aggro...

liliana seems brutal, protects itself and can even generate advantage at a plus for 3 mana, wow. It also shuts down topan freeblade on the play, right?Oath does what a planeswalker deck wants, probably not bad at all, maybe worse than Chandra's, but l'd play it over Gideon's easily.

pffft

Coco (almost) for PW... lol!

It stops Sylvan Advocate on the play as well. Liliana's Oath flavor text is just amazing too.

Well she is a planeswalker very much similar to Jace, Vryn's Prodigy, just skipping over being a creature first and coming down directly as a planeswalker.
Jace is cheaper and has looting but we can't just forget the power of a planeswalker, especially one that works like like another very good walker.
She may not be the best but she can certainly still be playable and not easily removed.


More toys for Superfriends?