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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:36 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:18 pm 
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Haven_pt wrote:
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Do you guys think bant has enough evasion with green trample and azorius airbeats + skyrider elf to fully support tamiyo's + 1 no matter what creature card you draw?

You don't even need evasion. Tamiyo's +1 just needs the creature to do damage not necessarily to the face, also you can put it on any creature which includes your opponent's or in 2HG you can put it on your teammate's creatures.
Lets not forget it also lasts through until your next turn.


Nettle drone?

Nah that won't work, I missed out combat damage. All the same you don't need to hit the opponent's face, you can just block or something and still get the draw.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:22 pm 
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I'm not sure why there's all this talk about the better ultimate on a PW. From my experience in Duels, people fire off any PW ultimate about once a season, that's all. It just doesn't build up all that often, or it builds but the game ends. Is it just me? Do other players reliably see these get used?
I mean... my opponent usually just scoops the second I use my planeswalker's ultimate...

@haven: it says specifically combat damage.


Scratch that idea... Should have gone and read the card again...

How about mindmelter? That card isn't all that bad and as far as I know, doesn't see play in any deck at all. There is no better evasion than "unblockable".

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:26 pm 
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Haven_pt wrote:
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I'm not sure why there's all this talk about the better ultimate on a PW. From my experience in Duels, people fire off any PW ultimate about once a season, that's all. It just doesn't build up all that often, or it builds but the game ends. Is it just me? Do other players reliably see these get used?
I mean... my opponent usually just scoops the second I use my planeswalker's ultimate...

@haven: it says specifically combat damage.


Scratch that idea... Should have gone and read the card again...

How about mindmelter? That card isn't all that bad and as far as I know, doesn't see play in any deck at all. There is no better evasion than "unblockable".


You'd have to introduce a 4 color though...

I think a swarm approach will be better. Example: whirler rogue, and other token generators. Also, possibly look at some of the skulk cards? Or cheap fliers - e.g. Less than 3 CMC.

You could try slotting the card into something similar, but updated, to BB's deck from the tournament.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:44 pm 
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This is a bit off topic but is mindmelter's ability bugged the same way vessel of malignity is where you can use it instant speed?

I've never seem the card played so I don't know...

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I believe it is bugged the same way, but I haven't tested it myself.

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Well of course the card is bugged, why wouldn't it be? Image Just be glad no one plays it.

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This is a bit off topic but is mindmelter's ability bugged the same way vessel of malignity is where you can use it instant speed?

I've never seem the card played so I don't know...

no, you cannot play it on opponents turn
i have plenty of experience with that card
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I think the best creature for Tamiyo is Skyhunter Skirmisher. It's a good threat on its own in the same color. It probably draws 2 cards just by itself, which might even be worth letting it trade with an opposing creature.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:49 pm 
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I think the best creature for Tamiyo is Skyhunter Skirmisher. It's a good threat on its own in the same color.

hah good joke, skyhuter skirmisher a threat, hilarious. the best creature with Tamiyo is anything with Vigilance


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I think the best creature for Tamiyo is Skyhunter Skirmisher. It's a good threat on its own in the same color.

hah good joke, skyhuter skirmisher a threat, hilarious. the best creature with Tamiyo is anything with Vigilance


Yeah, probably just want a typical always watching build of some sort.


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I think the best creature for Tamiyo is Skyhunter Skirmisher. It's a good threat on its own in the same color.
hah good joke, skyhuter skirmisher a threat, hilarious. the best creature with Tamiyo is anything with Vigilance
Yeah, probably just want a typical always watching build of some sort.
She's already got Sylvan and Avacyn.

Maybe there's some synergy with flipped Kytheon for forcing the enemy to attack? eeh, still seems too aggro...


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Since we are all getting kinda rage-y about things lets take it down a notch with something we all want.

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Since we are all getting kinda rage-y about things lets take it down a notch with something we all want.

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Decent card, it'll be good against control. It is situational though; Dispel along with this card would be nice.

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Since we are all getting kinda rage-y about things lets take it down a notch with something we all want.

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I guess it's good in midrange and ramp....


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Since we are all getting kinda rage-y about things lets take it down a notch with something we all want.

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I guess it's good in midrange and ramp....


Maybe for our Bant Tamiyo builds?

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I guess it's good in midrange and ramp....

Maybe for our Bant Tamiyo builds?

I thought we were trying to change the subject :P


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Since we are all getting kinda rage-y about things lets take it down a notch with something we all want.

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I guess it's good in midrange and ramp....


Maybe for our Bant Tamiyo builds?

tempo decks don't care about targeted removal the thing they are scared of is sweepers (totally unrelated note, still angry we didn't get negate)


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I guess it's good in midrange and ramp....


Maybe for our Bant Tamiyo builds?

tempo decks don't care about targeted removal the thing they are scared of is sweepers (totally unrelated note, still angry we didn't get negate)


Very true. :thumbsup:

And we need it now more than ever.


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ok, just 'cause wotc like to confuse me with these strange new things called words, clear something up for me. is that 4 possible cards drawn off of one +1 activation or 2? Either is great. I'm leaning towards the latter as the first option is crazy, but that's how it sounds.

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