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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:53 pm 
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Fun stuff with Eldritch Evolution:

The already mentioned Matter Reshaper into Reality Smasher (and Reshaper's death trigger)
Priest of the Blood Rite into Gaea's Revenge/Omnath, Locus of Rage + land (and the Demon token)
Seed Guardian into Greenwarden of Murasa + grab back the Guardian, or Woodland Bellower + Sylvan Advocate/Tireless Tracker + drop a land and crack a clue (and the Seed Guardian token)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:03 pm 
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I hate to be that guy but I really, really doubt we get that card.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:39 pm 
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*me looking at the cards revealed since I left for work*

Eternal Scourge - Huh, neat.
Lupine Prototype - That is the single stupidest/best art ever.
Grapple with the Past - Okay Lupine now must have the worst art because this is better.
Whispers of Emrakul - Discard sucks in the format. Get over it already!
Murder - ABOUT BLOODY TIME!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:02 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:45 pm 
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You may cast Eternal Scourge from exile.


Wow, "we don't want to let players interact with their own exile zone" lasted less than a year. GG WOTC, all hail Graveyard #2


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:52 pm 
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Going by Blogatog, Maro is still against this.

Guess development really cares about this for some reason.


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You may cast Eternal Scourge from exile.


Wow, "we don't want to let players interact with their own exile zone" lasted less than a year. GG WOTC, all hail Graveyard #2


I don't think this is what they meant though. Also, I'm pretty sure there have been other cards that can already do this kind of thing.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:06 pm 
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I am not saying the card is playable but target player discards 1 spell at random for 2 mana is much better than a mind rot. If you have never had hymm played against you I promise it isn't fun. Another example of how terrifying the word random can be it made a 2 mana planes walker 100% unplayable. #StillLoveYou #TibaltTown4Lyfe


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:34 pm 
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I am not saying the card is playable but target player discards 1 spell at random for 2 mana is much better than a mind rot. If you have never had hymm played against you I promise it isn't fun.


The issue with discard isn't so much that our discard outlets are kinda crappy (though that doesn't help) it's that discard, like lifegain, is best when it's incidental. It's why things like Liliana's Specter are cool but Mind Rot not so much. If you're filling your deck with cards that a) force both players into top deck mode (you by playing discard cards, the opponent by discarding cards) and then b) are absolute dead draws late game then you're in for a whole world of hurt.

It's why discard needs to be incidental or your pool also needs to give you access to junk like The Rack or cards that care about either player having nothing in their hand. Unfortunately our pool has little of either.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:46 pm 
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I would really like to see new archetypes become viable, but so far I just don't see it. Blue got some nice instants/sorceries matter cards, but this doesn't address blue's core weakness of rolling over to early green and white aggro.

Zombies would be cool, but it seems like the tribe just keeps on getting more very expensive cards when what the deck really needs is something very aggressive like Geralf's Messenger.

Delirium: there is no shortage of cards that have delirium payoff. The problem is delirium takes a while to activate and too many cards suck without it. Kindly Stranger 2/3 for 3 - no thanks. So you end up with a "delirium or bust" mentality and then you have so many suboptimal cards devoted to achieving delirium that the slight advantage of delirium synergy is gone, not to mention the consistency issues.

RB vamps gets new cards, but they are curve toppers the deck really doesn't need. The core problem of vamps is the inconsistency of madness/madness enablers, still a tier 2 deck.

Meanwhile white and green get a bunch of powerful cards that are individually consistent, powerful, and good. Go Wizards.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:06 pm 
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Werewolves got some good tools.

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Misthollow Griffin says we've been down this road before. Scourge is nothing new.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:46 pm 
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About time.


YES! About time we get proper removal in black. :party:

Now if we finally get a playable 2 mana counterspell or even just Negate I'll have nothing to complain about.

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Misthollow Griffin says we've been down this road before. Scourge is nothing new.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:27 pm 
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Getting Murder is great and all.. but that's not exactly what Black needs. Black still rolls over and dies to planeswalkers.. and it's a huge, glaring weakness. I don't care if it costs 5 mana.. or even if it's a sorcery (ala Angelic Edict).. but black needs planeswalker removal to really compete with White and Green.

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The Eldritch Moon release will address the priority issue, yes.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:28 pm 
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Wow, "we don't want to let players interact with their own exile zone" lasted less than a year. GG WOTC, all hail Graveyard #2


With Origins they also stated "Discarding cards at Random, and random events in general are unfun".

At this point, they might've been tainted by the Whispers of Emrakul.

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The Eldritch Moon release will address the priority issue, yes.


That was a must have. They already stated that EMN would have reverted back to the old priority, after the first SOI statement about a fall fix (for clues).

It would've been breaking news if they announced a delay for priority fix.

Besides that, their "Addressing the priority issue" might imply cutting off all instants, badly working cards and double-faced PW. That's a way to do it as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:41 pm 
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Welp, not sure why anyone would keep the 1/1 tokens from Ulvenwald Mysteries, if they can Eldritchly evolve them into 3/2 'Drazi.
And Buff that Vile Aggregate's trample.
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Welp, not sure why anyone would keep the 1/1 tokens from Ulvenwald Mysteries, if they can Eldritchly evolve them into 3/2 'Drazi.
And Buff that Vile Aggregate's trample.
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GW Tokens is looking so strong right now.

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