In fact I'm calling it now. If Supplanter is one of our Blue rares, I can see Blue having a much higher place in the meta, if only to be paired with things like Green ramp and other ETBs like Garren suggested. It's not the strongest creature, but I can't see a deck with anything more than a splash of Blue not wanting this for at least copying Ulamogs. To finish.

Aggressive majority Blue decks? Fancy that.

EDIT: Using both Thalia and Supplanter would be nasty for something like Reality Smasher. I'd take the discard for 8 damage and negating it's best keyword.

Also extra toy for Izzet aggro

Supplanter feels so slow and dependant on other cards, and the 3 toughness doesn't really help either.Isn't eldrazi displacer usually better? no need to risk it in combat, actually relevant stats, etc etc.

Does Ulamog really help you? It's a 10/10 Indestructable, but you won't get a copy of its attack effect.

I'd love to use this card on things like opposing Woodland Wanderer. The trouble is that then you're attacking with a plain old 2/2 copy of your own. So it works once.
Many ETB tricks would seem to have the same problem. How many turns can you use this to reboot your own Reflector Mage without losing the Supplanter to a blocker? (Obviously a couple ETB aren't so wimpy in combat, like Bellower.)
The one ETB that seems interesting is Whirler Rogue. You can use the original Whirler to make this guy unblockable before attacking.

Now where Supplanter is perhaps fascinating is giving pseudo-Haste to anything of your own. Drop a Plated Crusher and have a copy of it attacking that turn. Which I guess is also pseudo-Vigilence - get the fun of a Plated Crusher attacking, while also having it untapped to defend.
Basically, why rely on your opponent having things worth copying? It's good to have options of your own ready. Hmmm... double down on this plus Eldrazi Mimic...

Imagine re-targeting Greenwarden of Murasa over and and over again. Simic Tempo?

Or Woodland Bellower!! Coco!!

People were talking about processors on reddit,it seems interesting, but it doesn't really work with nullifier.

But they can kill it in combat the first time you do that.

Even worse, if they somehow remove the Greenwarden in response, you've already committed a 0/3 attacker. 2 for 1 removal there.

I don't think it's that much of a setup card for other combos, I think the strength is that it's always the largest attacker on the board. It's going to rule in Commander. It is the end result beatdown card, it's not the prelude to other things, IMHO.

Do you have to attack with it? Couldn't it work with all the ETB creatures?

Edit: oh it has to attack.

Yeah... It's really good for my humans builds, but the 3 slot is already VERY full. Still, for aggro control this kind of card is just fantastic, it answers a lot of problems and puts your opponent on a serious tempo clock. This plus the flying 2/1 (I forget the name) that causes spells to be more expensive would be brutal.

Silly idea... Supplanter commits to the attack before copying. So if you ever wanted to kill your opponent with an Illusionary Wall there's now one more way to do that.

ok, practical idea... that ducks around any additional attack costs. What has the most irrational attack cost that you'd want to skip?

Supplanter is just another UW enabler for flicking ETB taps and other similar stuff.
Just give the guy some degree of evasion, and UW counters will carry it alive through the game, while he flickers some rage crash freeze enabling cards.

I don't think you can remove the target in response no? You would have to remove a creature before the decision on what is being copied right?
The Supplanter would attack and then its effect would go on the stack and you would have to blindly kill the best card to copy before the effect resolves I would think, since it seems you immediately Exile the target and copy it in one move at resolution.

Though I'm no rules expert and without the actual rulings on the card out yet I guess we have to wait and see how it functions.

Master of cruelties, obviously.

Wait, Supplanter of Identity has hexproof, meaning you can't target Supplanter of Identity instead of removing the creature it's going to copy? *gasp*

But yeah, both of these cards could go into UW humans. Flicker reflector Mage, Thalia's LT, if still colorless TKS, etc... or of course a huge blocker.

No, there's no hexproof mentioned anywhere?
The others where saying remove the target such as Bellower before you exile it, leaving an attacking 0/3.
However I was saying that I don't think you chose the target straight away since Supplanter would attack and put its effect on the stack then at resolution you immediately choose your target and immediately exile and copy it without a chance to remove the target being copied in response.
That would mean you would instead have to Blindly remove Bellower because it is the best creature to copy on the board but then Supplanter just copies something else instead.

That's how I read the ability anyway going off my limited ruling knowledge:
1. Supplanter Attacks
2. Supplanter's trigger goes on the stack but no choices are made yet.
3. Opponent removes Bellower because it's the best thing to copy.
4. Supplanter's trigger resolves and you choose a target and immediately exile and copy it, perhaps Whirler Rogue instead now because Bellower is in the grave.

WrightJustice wrote:

Is what i was referring to. There is nothing in your post that suggest to just simply remove Supplanter of Identity before attackers are assigned

The hexproof comment might be sarcasm. Maybe.

Anywho... the sequence is this...
1, Supplanter, and anyone else, declared attacking.
2, All "when this attacks" effects go on the stack, choosing targets as appropriate. (This is why it will be too late to benefit after copying a "when this attacks" like Ulamog.)
3, opponent removes the Supplanter target.
4, resolving the stack, Supplanter's ability has no target left. Normally this wouldn't matter, but the key here is that it says "if you do". That clause alters the outcome of the ability that's on the stack, so nothing happens.

I want 4 copies of the new Thailia.