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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:22 am 
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"Supplanter of Identity
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Whenever Supplanter of Identity attacks you may exile another target non-token creature. If you do, Supplanter of Identity becomes a copy of that creature until the end of the turn. Return the exiled card to the battlefield under its owner's control at the begining of the next end step."

Oooh, this looks nice!

Source: http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/supp ... ntity.html

EDIT: At worst, it's a 4 mana Act of Treason in Blue. Put some processor shenanigans in there, and it gets even better.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:25 am 
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"2w, 3/2 legendary human soldier

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Creatures and nonbasic lands your opponents control enter the battlefield tapped."

Not gonna lie, that's good in a wide variety of decks. You could put some slower aggro/midrange decks down on curve (even hasted nasties get rekt here!), and of course the obvious push for inclusion in aggro decks too.


You're right. I could probably slot that in over Bishops in any of my midrane decks.

Actually, wouldn't this be a good card for control too? Prevents haste, anti-aggro, slows down mana. This seems like a lot of control in a 3 drop.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:26 am 
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Can someone tell me Thalia's rarity please? I'm at work and can't look at any of the images.

One of the first cards spoiled and already something that will be working its way into my Bant tempo deck.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:28 am 
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Here's a question how the $£%! can it make sense to have an outside the game zone and then have a card that brings things back from that zone meaning its not $£%!ing outside the game?


This exact line of thought is why they renamed the "removed from the game" zone to the "exile" zone.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:29 am 
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Can someone tell me Thalia's rarity please? I'm at work and can't look at any of the images.

One of the first cards spoiled and already something that will be working its way into my Bant tempo deck.


Rare.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:33 am 
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Empo wrote:
"Supplanter of Identity
2UU
Creature - Shapeshifter
Whenever Supplanter of Identity attacks you may exile another target non-token creature. If you do, Supplanter of Identity becomes a copy of that creature until the end of the turn. Return the exiled card to the battlefield under its owner's control at the begining of the next end step."

Oooh, this looks nice!

Source: http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/supp ... ntity.html

EDIT: At worst, it's a 4 mana Act of Treason in Blue. Put some processor shenanigans in there, and it gets even better.


WE MAY ACTUALLY GET A NEW BOUNCE CARD!? #HYPE This with Altered Ego could be fun.


They REALLY don't want anyone using Auras! Ever.


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3.) Hanweir, the Writhing Township really seems like it should start as a land, but the collector number is all wrong for that. 130 out of 205 seems pretty late for a white card too.

It's not white. It's a clear colorless boarder, with white-ish artwork behind it.
Note the lack of the color bug in the middle bar - if it was white it'd have a little white circle.

Ulrich is 191. Multicolor cards are before land, right? So we know there's at most 14 land in the set, probably less since colorless artifacts are numbered after multicolor cards.
Hanweir is probably red or green, given the number. I bet it's naturally an ooze that takes over the town - maybe an ooze you sac a land to transform?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:36 am 
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Actually, wouldn't this be a good card for control too? Prevents haste, anti-aggro, slows down mana. This seems like a lot of control in a 3 drop.


I think so. Some players were already including Knight of the White Orchid in control decks for the first strike/extra mana on the draw. Add to that +1 and one hell of a tempo upsetting ability and I'd say that's some sweet anti-aggro tech. Worst case scenario in a control mirror, it messes with their mana whether they have met their dual land conditions or not, whilst being a 3 power beater that can swat early Advocates aside.

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3.) Hanweir, the Writhing Township really seems like it should start as a land, but the collector number is all wrong for that. 130 out of 205 seems pretty late for a white card too.

It's not white. It's a clear colorless boarder, with white-ish artwork behind it.
Note the lack of the color bug in the middle bar - if it was white it'd have a little white circle.

Ulrich is 191. Multicolor cards are before land, right? So we know there's at most 14 land in the set, probably less since colorless artifacts are numbered after multicolor cards.
Hanweir is probably red or green, given the number. I bet it's naturally an ooze that takes over the town - maybe an ooze you sac a land to transform?

Nah it's just Emrakul's influence transforming them. They where getting madder and madder in the mini Hanweir stories, even building up their town walls so no one can enter or leave and other such crazy stuff and now Emrakul has fully arrived they all fused together into this monstrosity similar to how Bruna and Gisela have fused.

Also the new Thalia feels like such a pain just as always, probably even more so than the last one because she can slow you right down much more if you're heavy on nonbasic lands.
Since Bounce only linked the clone, here is Thalia: http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/thal ... retic.html

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They REALLY don't want anyone using ENCHANTMENTS! Ever.


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Actually, wouldn't this be a good card for control too? Prevents haste, anti-aggro, slows down mana. This seems like a lot of control in a 3 drop.


I think so. Some players were already including Knight of the White Orchid in control decks for the first strike/extra mana on the draw. Add to that +1 and one hell of a tempo upsetting ability and I'd say that's some sweet anti-aggro tech. Worst case scenario in a control mirror, it messes with their mana whether they have met their dual land conditions or not, whilst being a 3 power beater that can swat early Advocates aside.


Yeah this card is looking like the tireless tracker for white.

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Since Barney only linked the clone, here is Thalia: http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/thal ... retic.html


BARNEY?!

:ahem:

But kudos for linking. I just saw DJ mention it and had to look it up, didn't want to re-post a spoiler here I might have missed.

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Since Barney only linked the clone, here is Thalia: http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/thal ... retic.html


BARNEY?!

:ahem:

But kudos for linking. I just saw DJ mention it and had to look it up, didn't want to re-post a spoiler here I might have missed.

Barney? Where? What? I dunno what you're talking about.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:08 am 
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Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but your quote clearly says "Since Barney only linked the clone."

I am not Barney.

This has been a PSA.

EDIT: I see your ninja editing there!

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Oh no, Stormchasers entering tapped is just bad karma. White does not need better cards!
Give Red some love please! Pretty please, with cherries on top!

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MaRo said something on Blogatog about evening colors positions vs White in this expansion. From this Thalia reveal, I can only deduce Red has a card that reads:

"Remove all copies of a card named Thalia, her parents, extended family, pets and associates from the game."

That's what it'd take at this point given the joke SoI's Red rares/mythics were.

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MaRo said something on Blogatog about evening colors positions vs White in this expansion. From this Thalia reveal, I can only deduce Red has a card that reads:

"Remove all copies of a card named Thalia, her parents, extended family, pets and associates from the game."

That's what it'd take at this point given the joke SoI's Red rares/mythics were.

it has 2 toughness for 3 mana , you'd think mono red could walk past it easily.


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Could be wrong here, I don't remember the SoI Red rares and mythics we got, but I'm pretty sure none of them were too mono red focused. I remember Avacyn's Judgement and that awful hell hound thing. Wasn't that Geier Reach Bandit the other one?

Basically all uncommon and lower aside, we didn't get any Red cards to call home about.

EDIT: Looked it up, other 2 were Wolf of Devil's Breach and Flameblade Angel. Outstanding.

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MaRo said something on Blogatog about evening colors positions vs White in this expansion. From this Thalia reveal, I can only deduce Red has a card that reads:

"Remove all copies of a card named Thalia, her parents, extended family, pets and associates from the game."

That's what it'd take at this point given the joke SoI's Red rares/mythics were.

it has 2 toughness for 3 mana , you'd think mono red could walk past it easily.


It wouldn't take a lot to shift the spectrum of staple cards. For instance, if we got Lightning Bolt as a common, suddenly 4x copies appear in red decks everywhere and the balance shifts quite a bit based on the strength of that one card.

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Damnit Wizards! Stop releasing fun interesting cards! You're getting me all excited and I bet you aren't even going to give us half of them!

That said Thalia looks hilariously good just for her ability to keep the enemy unsteady.

Personally though I'm a bigger fan of 'Supplanter of Identity'. The sheer fact it allows you to target any creature on the table leads to all kinds of fun scenarios. Yeah you can use it to make a hole in the opponents defenses but why do that when you can use it to flicker junk like Woodland Bellower, Whirler Rogue and other delicious ETB creatures?

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