I usually play my games out until (like the Placebo song) the bitter end. You never know when there's gonna be a misplay or a ultra lucky top-deck, so I hardly ever rage-quit or concede, even if it means wasting my time on an already lost match. I want to make my opponents sweat to beat me, or at least annoy them a little (Don't really like losing, thats who I am).

Mind you, yesterday while I was playing my reanimator deck, my opponent had a resolved ulamog on the board and I had a 7/6 plated crusher, a 7/7 Almaharet and a couple of other guys. I fought hard to get control of this game and was at 20 life and he was at 13 or 14. So Ulamog wasn't scaring me, I knew what he had is his hand thanks to Almaharet and I was ready to get agressive because I had another necromatic summons in hand. Then he top-decks chandra's ignition... It was just too much for me. I didn't rage quit, I rage-turned off the PC.

Any similar experiences?

What are your views on conceding and rage-quitting? I've seen people quit games they could have and probably would have turned around...
Is it polite to quit and not make everyone lose their time? This is a game and losing can be a learning experience.

That sig line is stoopid. I'm rage quitting this thread.

/ looking forward to Hakeems take on this

Oops, posted this is constructed by accident (I probably got infected by stupidity), if any of the moderators would be so kind as to move it to the main section...

I know you are Barney.

Anywho, conceding is apart of the game; it helps the games move along quicker and allows the players to not durdle away any excess time. Personally, I only leave when I see that I'm facing lethal exactly that turn. There have been many times where someone would leave/concede too early and not play to their outs.

Is he even still alive? He's been uncharacteristically quiet as of late. Wonder if he is in trouble with the Misses.

He's in trouble with Yogg Saron for not playing enough spells.

I am sure that would make sense if Hearthstone was worth playing. .

Hi there Haven_pt, happy to help. Next time don't hesitate to use the report button for things like this, it alerts us, and lets us know you need our help. I saw this thread entirely by accident.

Stasis

Thanks stacks, I hadn't noticed the report feature.

Next time, hopefully there won't be one, I'll know what to do.

I would like to hear other players's rage quit stories though, so please share.

This attitude is a big part of why Magic is a toxic environment. Why do you want to "annoy" your opponent? Are you 12? Have you ever heard of the Golden Rule? Would you be OK with your opponent annoying you? Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Don't be a child.

Yup agree with this. If you know you've lost just concede and save both player's time, holy bejebus it's just a game right? And also it's just a random online match, some ppl accept unlucky losses and move on........

Thirding. I just played R/G/X against a R/B Eldrazi who sat on a lone Vile Aggregate for like five turns while I stacked up clues and smaller threats and killed everything else he put out on the board. Even after I had Ormendahl, four other creatures, six clues, and a huge life lead he made me close him out, winning 46-0. It was pretty retarded. Those decks are not in the same class, man...is it really fun for you to draw out your agonizing defeat like that? I guess it's a type of self-hate.

Well, if your gonna beat me, I'm gonna make you have to earn it. I'm not a quitter, its as simples as that. I will use up every last resource and opportunity to try and service for as long as I can.

I do not stall, or cheat or use childish tactics. I simply play with what I have until you finish me off. No easy victories here.

Don't like that attitude? Too bad... I can assure you, when you finally do beat me, it will be a more rewarding experience than if I just quit.

If your just playing for the gold... I get the whole "don't waste my time, concede already" atitude. Its those people I want to annoy.

People who concede when the going gets tough and don't stick it out are really never gonna learn anything. Like I've said before, losing is a learning experience.

Think of it like this: in a tennis match (or any other sport really), your 2 sets down, its match point against you. Do you just leave the pitch and go and find someone else to play against? No, you keep playing.

Its not over until the fat lady sings.

If I have an opponent stick out a match they clearly can't win, I personally respect them for it. I don't blame anyone for quitting in the same situation; I usually stay live till lethal is present, but not always. Sometimes I'll conceded if I'm playing poorly and get frustrated with myself.

I don't think someone playing out a game they're not going to win makes magic toxic, even if they don't care that their opponent is annoyed they won't give up. I'm inclined to think the person wanting you to give up is in the wrong, and them being annoyed about that is their problem. I wouldn't call magic toxic anyways; it's fundamentally no different from any other competitive environment. Poor sports are a-holes, and those are the jerks who wait out the timer when you're winning just to spite you or crash-quit to preserve rank - not the person who fights till the bitter end.

I believe there is a thin, but very important line to draw here, as there is a difference between dragging a game out to purposely annoy your opponent and to just play a match out.

I think it's every Magic player's right to let his opponent show him his way of winning the game, making him go through the motions.
I think it's also okay to play out your hand on your last move and then concede, just to show "Yep, that's all I got, it's not enough". That's also playing it out.

The one thing that is annoying and completely unnecessary is if you purposely let your clock tick down, or Interrupt a bazillion times during the last attack step. This would count as purposely annoying your opponent, and if you win that game, it's almost exclusively relieving that the torture is over and not satisfying at all.

I agree with that 100%. The people who act like petulant children are the ones who purposely stall out the timer when you're winning. I have no ill will towards people who are simply trying to fight till the end.

Playing sports, I always felt like the mercy rule was for the benifit of the losing side, not the side that is dominating.

I think you took that the wrong way...all he's saying (to me, at least) is he plays until he runs out of cards or hits 0 life. He makes his opponent earn it by playing it out, not by annoying the crap out of him by pause-delaying the inevitable. There are games where you can make a comeback, and by playing out your games, you at least have a chance to win, either by a lucky top-deck or opponent miscue.

If you are going to play a durdle deck... yes, I am going to make you earn your win. I don't care if you are playing Esper control, just don't expect me to concede on turn 15 when I know you're going to win on turn 25.

I see nothing wrong with making people earn wins when you know well before hand that the game is lost.

Maybe it's because I grew up playing sports and learned how to accept defeat but still played my hardest to make the other team earn their wins as much as I could.

I think a lot has to do with the format your playing. This isn't a tournament or some sort of qualifier or result in any (real) prizes etc. It's a casual format with some digital pixels as a reward (that everyone one can win - nothing unique). For me, it's like having a game at the kitchen table. If the writing is on the wall, then scoop your cards and have another game (regardless of the reason). I play because I enjoy the game and have fun. If the match is intense/close (or you have outs etc) and requires you play it all out, fine. If it's a blow out or variance happens, then it's your choice how you wish to handle it. The perceived honor/code/ethics of a game is just a poor reason in my opinion to grind out a match. Thing is, this debate happens all the time and it's a moot one. It's an online game and your bound to run into all sorts of personalities meaning you'll have to put up with this sort of thing (especially if you want to continue playing the game) regardless of what we think. Personally though, if I've lost (know I don't have outs/ way way behind/ flood/ screw etc etc), I'm not going to waste your time (or mine) on grinding out a match.


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Singing a new tune now, though, eh Kryder?