@Shockwave: I thought I remembered him saying that he has to have it be his first thing said, but I could be misremembering and probably am.
@Numbers: Interesting, unfortunately its too easily gamed at this point, especially with your limitation. Later on it would be more powerful, but its likely you'll just take a bullet and we'll be stuck looking at 6ish different people of which only 1 is confirmed scum (probably). Never mind the fact that you could be scum yourself.
I think that people who are like that are really deep. They have a sense of understanding things and are vague and quiet and mysterious you know? Like a cello. It plays depressing music (that's how I think of it) but it's so beautiful. It's a beautiful instrument and it's so. You know. Like really emotional. Yeah. Emotional is the word.
@Rubik: What's complicated about I choose who can target me?
@Fred: As I said, I've chosen this path purely for the sake of town's benefit. If I eat a bullet, unless town shot me, you know there's guaranteed scum on my list. Benefit town. (If town does shoot me, you're a dumbass for wasting a bullet when you could argue for a lynch and bringing inevitable heat down on you when I flip). Town that's not on my list can choose to target me still, but they'll waste their time. If they don't believe me then confirmation. If they do, then they've wasted no efforts. Either way, benefit town. Can scum work around it? Sure. If they couldn't clearly game balance would be in question.
Alternatively I could have said nothing. Baited scum, gone for a bullet proof methodology, but that route would undoubtedly draw town's targetings as well, foiling town abilities and maybe one night kill. Cost to benefit doesn't even out there.
I think that people who are like that are really deep. They have a sense of understanding things and are vague and quiet and mysterious you know? Like a cello. It plays depressing music (that's how I think of it) but it's so beautiful. It's a beautiful instrument and it's so. You know. Like really emotional. Yeah. Emotional is the word.
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@Numbers:
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On the contrary, it is something I overlooked simply because I am focused on nailing your scummy self. The reason for the oversight is simple: In bringing to bear your playstyle variance not being different between town and scum it forces me to have to consider a scenario where you may be town. In undertaking such a consideration I have no choice but to acknowledge my one-sided argument against you based on playstyle. Because of this, me taking the initiative to admit fault given my perspective of you has no bearing. It neither indicates me being "caught" for trying to misrepresent nor does it indicate any sort of malicious intent on my end aside from obviously putting forth an argument about you being scum (which you easily refuted anyway).
I'd rather put it to a vote between everyone else who they much prefer concerning our arguments just to see you proven wrong concerning my inability to beat you in a street debate.
On to the important matters now.
Assuming Numbers is being genuine about his role (and he isn't scum), then his claim and openness really do benefit town for the reasons he's already stated. He could withhold his claim, but then, being one of the more experienced mafia players, he runs the risk of potentially getting himself killed without being able to inform us of his ability. That results in a huge advantage to us in being able to narrow down scum.
@Rubik:
Dispassionate? I like to imagine that when he's speaking to me he has a smug look on his face. It motivates me to compete against him.
I may have a problem.
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Minish_Link on 08/02/2020 No one is gonna hold a grudge over a mafia game.
ExLight hahaha stares at KoD
Zinger209908 you are in a better position than you were before KoD saved you from yourselves you should thank him before he kills himself with his hail marry here
funnier6 Also for goodness sake you know KoD could argue until he had sucked all the air in the room and was suffocating on the floor
shadowamber you gotta admit the bus gifs were kinda funny though
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You wound me Zinger.
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Minish_Link on 08/02/2020 No one is gonna hold a grudge over a mafia game.
ExLight hahaha stares at KoD
Zinger209908 you are in a better position than you were before KoD saved you from yourselves you should thank him before he kills himself with his hail marry here
funnier6 Also for goodness sake you know KoD could argue until he had sucked all the air in the room and was suffocating on the floor
shadowamber you gotta admit the bus gifs were kinda funny though
@Numbers: [spoiler]On the contrary, it is something I overlooked simply because I am focused on nailing your scummy self. The reason for the oversight is simple: In bringing to bear your playstyle variance not being different between town and scum it forces me to have to consider a scenario where you may be town. In undertaking such a consideration I have no choice but to acknowledge my one-sided argument against you based on playstyle. Because of this, me taking the initiative to admit fault given my perspective of you has no bearing. It neither indicates me being "caught" for trying to misrepresent nor does it indicate any sort of malicious intent on my end aside from obviously putting forth an argument about you being scum (which you easily refuted anyway).
I'd rather put it to a vote between everyone else who they much prefer concerning our arguments just to see you proven wrong concerning my inability to beat you in a street debate.
On to the important matters now.[/spoiler]
KoD
Simply saying things aren't doesn't make them not. Take for example misrepresentation. You freely admit to ignoring possibilities because you're focused on portraying me in a scum light. You then contend that this isn't misrepresenting because you say it's not. Yet by the very definition you are clearly misrepresenting. The question then becomes is it malicious or not? Given your continued insistence that it doesn't even exist in the first place, clearly the logic leans towards it being malicious, as if it were merely accidental when you admitted that you used faulty arguments you would have admitted to unintentionally misrepresenting the situation as well. But instead while you admit to using faulty arguments you try to excuse your behavior rather than owning up to it. This pattern of behavior deviates from what you're claiming is the basis of your actions in so much that it centers around not presenting cases for possible scum, but rather dismissing anybody taking a closer look in your direction, a decidedly scum motivation.
And a popularity contest is no way to decide a debate.
My thought on numbers claim is that it was unnecessary. If you can really choose exactly who can and can't screw with you, I don't think you should actually be sweating the fact of tripping up town. You can effectively turn your ability off, or set it up however.
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@Numbers:
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Nor does saying they are make it so. And you're wrong yet again. I never admitted to ignoring possibilities. I conceded the point of the argument on playstyle due to your response because I understood what you were saying to me to be true. As I later indicated, it was an oversight on my part as I am focused on you being scum. That's hardly similar to me being focused on portraying you in a scummy light. If that were the case, I never would have conceded the point and argued it further with you, but I didn't. Given that I never had the intent of gunning for you with a recognized faulty argument, that lends credibility to me having no malicious intent towards you.
And give me more credit. I owned up to the fact, recognized in hindsight, that I made a faulty argument. However, I am not going to own up to the lie your portraying that I had malicious intent to misrepresent you and lie. In regards to my own pattern of behavior, you're doing nothing more than grasping at straws. In being upfront about not resorting to lies or false facts to gun for you, I am maintaining the integrity. You, on the other hand, are consistently twisting my actions to paint them in a negative light so you can discredit me.
I imagined a popularity contest regarding our arguments would be fitting. Do you have a better suggestion?
Off topic - @Zinger: If you head out, stay safe out there. You must complete Spider-Man 3 so I can participate in the crazy fun you create.
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Minish_Link on 08/02/2020 No one is gonna hold a grudge over a mafia game.
ExLight hahaha stares at KoD
Zinger209908 you are in a better position than you were before KoD saved you from yourselves you should thank him before he kills himself with his hail marry here
funnier6 Also for goodness sake you know KoD could argue until he had sucked all the air in the room and was suffocating on the floor
shadowamber you gotta admit the bus gifs were kinda funny though
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