I've played around alot with temur, and in my opinion temur ramp (which is basically simic ramp + flames) is one of the best decks in the meta; but I wanted absolutely to get to a stable monster version; after alot of testing, here it is:


TEMUR MONSTERS, final version.

3 x Gatecreeper vine
3 x Elvish Visionary
3 x Skyrider Elf

1 x Nissa, Vastwood Seer
3 x Bounding Krasis
1 x Reclamation Sage
3 x Natural Connection
2 x Radiant Flames

1 x Kiora, Master of the Depths
2 x Whirler Rogue
1 x Akoum Firebird
2 x Woodland Wanderer

2 x Outland Colossus
1 x Chandra's Ignition
2 x Lumbering Falls

2 x Drowner of Hope
1 x Woodland Bellower
1 x Oblivion Sower

1 x Plated Crusher
1 x Omnath, Locus of Rage

2 x Rolling Thunder

4 x Island
4 x Mountain
6 x Forest
2 x Cinder Glade
2 x Rootbound Crag
2 x Hinterland Harbor
2 x Sulfur Falls


So this is how you play this pile, don't worry, it's very easy:

You got 9 2 drops to set up (don't be afraid to play a t2 2/2 flier, this deck has some reach, so damage done counts for alot); then you identify wether you are the beatdown or the control in the match; and play accordingly. You can ramp T3 or play above the curve beaters. You got lots of low toughness guys + flames, but the dorks are mainly there to set you up incase you are expecting moss/being aggroed down; all of them will get value on cast or can dodge flames by casting flames for x=2. From t4 onwards, you should be the meanest, baddest, biggest, curve machine around. You have some massive curve toppers in omnath and 2 rolling thunder; but the standard 6 drops should get you there in most matches.

Because it lacks spot removal, the deck does kinda forfeit t1 chaser into t2 Full moon on the play, but you still have outs by chumps and then tapping their dude with krasis, and then presenting 2 big blockers t4, or playing visionary + another blocker t4 to make full moon go away. anything besides that god hand, though, this deck is favoured to outlast vs rdw, play or draw.

An argument could be made to sub Greenwarden over Sower/Bellower, since the deck has rolling thunders + kiora, but thepile is able to put enough pressure out that 1 resolved burnspell should win the game. The sower is another huge beater in a deck full of big beaters and makes your follow up thunders bigger. Bellower is 6 mana for 9 power or 8 power + tech so I kinda prefer that proactive play over a slower 5/4 + best card in yard in this build.


This is as good as I could get it. I'll retire from this thread now

Haha, I peaked at rank 40 again (from 34 that I was) with that^...thing...having a 7/6 trampling shoggot attacking in t5 is fun, same has doing 9 points of no-combat Nettle damage in one turn, my record till now.

Had fun with this yesterday. Did you try it with Kiora for untapping and maybe getting another extra colorless monster drop in with that extra land.

Looks pretty solid, I'll give it some spins but I will 100% be swapping the Druid for Krasis

I'm really enjoying this deck idea against the AI so I figured I could share it. Warning: it's probably too inconsistent for ladder, but feel free to try.
It doesn't use any OGW card because I haven't opened any OGW pack yet.

Investimagate

3 x Essence Flux
4 x Confront the Unknown

3 x Erdwal Illuminator
4 x Sylvan Ranger

2 x Tireless Tracker
3 x Ghirapur AEther Grid
3 x Ulvenwald Mysteries

3 x Whirler Rogue
2 x Pia and Kiran Nalaar
3 x Reclusive Artificer
2 x Thopter Spy Network

2 x Barrage Ogre
1 x Embermaw Hellion
1 x Tamiyo's Journal

5 x Island
4 x Mountain
5 x Forest
1 x Lumbering Falls
2 x Rootbound Crag
2 x Hinterland Harbor
2 x Sulfur Falls
3 x Warped Landscape


The idea is to investigate as much as you can, then use all those clues as fuel for Ghirapur AEther Grid, Barrage Ogre or Pia and Kiran Nalaar. The Embermaw Hellion is just an experiment, I didn't like to have 3 Barrage Ogres so I switched one of them for it. Reclusive Artificers should be good to remove threats once the clues start to flow, and they can also be flickered with Essence Flux.
I tried to use Warped Landscape for the first time and I'm still not sure about them: switch with Evolving Wilds or with other lands if you wish.
I started with Byway Courier instead of Sylvan Ranger but then I realized that the latter is much better both for curve and for fixing mana screws, and the sources of investigation should be enough anyway.

I'm really enjoying this deck idea against the AI so I figured I could share it. Warning: it's probably too inconsistent for ladder, but feel free to try.
It doesn't use any OGW card because I haven't opened any OGW pack yet.

Investimagate

3 x Essence Flux
4 x Confront the Unknown

3 x Erdwal Illuminator
4 x Sylvan Ranger

2 x Tireless Tracker
3 x Ghirapur AEther Grid
3 x Ulvenwald Mysteries

3 x Whirler Rogue
2 x Pia and Kiran Nalaar
3 x Reclusive Artificer
2 x Thopter Spy Network

2 x Barrage Ogre
1 x Embermaw Hellion
1 x Tamiyo's Journal

5 x Island
4 x Mountain
5 x Forest
1 x Lumbering Falls
2 x Rootbound Crag
2 x Hinterland Harbor
2 x Sulfur Falls
3 x Warped Landscape

Feels brutal... Try it out.

Temur Midrange

Creatures (24)
2 x Deathcap Cultivator
2 x Sylvan Advocate
3 x Lambholt Pacifist
1 x Nissa, Vastwood Seer
3 x Lifespring Druid
3 x Void Grafter
2 x Mina and Denn, Wildborn
2 x Woodland Wanderer
2 x Guardian of Tazeem
2 x Outland Colossus
1 x Ulvenwald Hydra
1 x Woodland Bellower

Spells (11)
2 x Radiant Flames
3 x Retreat to Coralhelm
1 x Arlinn Kord
1 x Kiora, Master of the Depths
1 x Jace, Unraveler of Secrets
2 x Chandra's Ignition
1 x Chandra, Flamecaller

Lands (25)
1 x Rogue's Passage
2 x Cinder Glade
2 x Hinterland Harbor
2 x Lumbering Falls
2 x Mountain
2 x Rootbound Crag
2 x Sulfur Falls
2 x Wandering Fumarole
3 x Island
7 x Forest


Just updated from above. T4 Outland colossus with trample (or hasted with vigilance), yeah, thanks I think I will. Get a dork, plus retreat plus Mina and Denn out sometime - watch what happens. Lols.

Some other things I didn't mention before... I've kept woodland Belower in because it's a 10/10 over 2 bodies if you get it. I'm actually not sold on that btw... It's weak in this deck. I really did just say a 10/10 over 2 bodies is weak in this deck. ;-)

I'm not sure if this deck is spike enough to really be spike, but for the Johnny/Timmy crew, it's really good. I'd be shocked if it's not competitive though.

Some other things I didn't mention before... I've kept woodland Belower in because it's a 10/10 over 2 bodies if you get it. I'm actually not sold on that btw... It's weak in this deck. I really did just say a 10/10 over 2 bodies is weak in this deck. ;-)

Temur Midrange

Just wanted to see If I could play a smooth temur midrange deck this time around. dunno, seems okish. Not expecting something spectacular or anything....

Not sure if I want Dr. Owner or Hydra. Altered ego a hydra is pretty unnessecary, but on a dr Owner it can play defense very well.

I think Rabid Bite fits in this deck, we run lots of big dudes, and it only costs 2 mana, we don't care about sorcery speed here most of the time.


2 x Oath of Nissa

2 x Deathcap Cultivator
2 x Sylvan Advocate
3 x Duskwatch Recruiter
3 x Rabid Bite

2 x Tireless Tracker
3 x Bounding Krasis
2 x Radiant Flames
1 x Nissa, Vastwood Seer
1 x Nissa, Voice of Zendikar

2 x Mina and Denn, Wildborn
2 x Woodland Wanderer
1 x Arlin Kord
2 x Altered Ego

2 x Outland Colossus

1 x Woodland Bellower
1 x Chandra, Flamecaller
1 x Ulvenwald Hydra

2 x Gaea's Revenge

3 x Island
2 x Mountain
6 x Forest
2 x Lumbering Falls
2 x Cinder Glade
2 x Routbound Crag
2 x Hinterland Harbor
2 x Sulfur Falls
1 x Rogue's Passage
3 x Evolving Wilds


Any Comments ?

What about a Reclamation Sage instead of...I dunno...a Pacifist? Now there are finally a bunch of annoying artifacts, and several new enchantments that are a pita...I'm thinking about Vision, Traft, Mysteries, Holwpack etc...that would add versatility to the Bellower...