Here's mine, I took a slightly less johhny approach.



3 x Thornbow Archer
3 x Sludge Crawler
2 x Fiery Impulse

2 x Perilous Myr
4 x Culling Drone
2 x Abbot of Keral Keep
3 x Forerunner of Slaughter
2 x Twin bolt

2 x Wasteland Strangler
4 x Dominator Drone
2 x Vile Aggregate
2 x Exquisite Firecraft
2 x Touch of the Void

1 x Akoum Firebird
2 x Pia and Kiran Nalaar
2 x Dust Stalker

1 x Ob Nixilis Reignited

8 x Swamp
8 x Mountain
2 x Smoldering Marsh
2 x Dragonskull Summit
3 x Rakdos Guildgate


Focused a bit more on removing blockers rather than Titan's strength, I think it works better with Abbot this way. and I didn't go for the FC thing; preferring solid Pia and Kiran and a curvetopped Obnixilis to dig for burn to close, or remove your big buff dude.

P&K are always good, granted, they were my first option too...but they aren't particularly synergistic is this deck, just with Myrs and maybe Forerunners so I cut them...Flameshadow is pretty amazing here, try it, srly (+1 mountain -1 swamp)

I should change one Agregate for Obi, I forgot to put him back in when I cut the Herder, oops...

Hi all. I'm a new player and need advice with this deck

3 x goblin arsonist
1 x fiery impulse
3 x titan's strength
2 x bone splinters
3 x perilous myr
3 x gurmag swiftwing
2 x mage-ring bully
1 x goblin war paint
2 x infectious bloodlust
1 x graveblade marauder
2 x fleshbag marauder
1 x ghirapur gearcrafter
1 x exquisite firecraft
2 x act of treason
1 x erebos's titan
1 x pia & kiran nalaar
1 x flameshadow conjuring
1 x languish
1 x gilt-leaf winnower
2 x nightfire giant
2 x embermaw hellion

7 x swamp
9 x mountain
2 x dragonskull summit
1 x consul's foundry
1 x rogue's passage
1 x looming spires
3 x evolving wilds


Any thougths will be welcomed

My first thought is that you need to decide if you want to be aggressive or midrange and to stick with that

Also just cut erebos's titan for the second pia and kiraan

I would want to focus more on a midrange deck so what do yo think I should cut? Gurmag and goblin warpaint? And what should I add?? I don't have the second P&K but will try the change if I get it

From that list I have another arsonist, myr, titan strenght, two more bone splinters, one more goblin warpaint, one act of treason, one languish and one nightfire giant

If you want to be a midrange deck you should probably not be using the following

titan's strength
gurmag swiftwing
mage ring bully
goblin warpaint

And probably a few others that I don't see

I made some changes

4 x goblin arsonist
1 x fiery impulse
4 x bone splinters
4 x perilous myr
2 x infectious bloodlust
1 x graveblade marauder
2 x fleshbag marauder
2 x nantuko husk
1 x ghirapur gearcrafter
1 x exquisite firecraft
2 x act of treason
1 x erebos's titan
2 x gravedigger
1 x pia & kiran nalaar
1 x flameshadow conjuring
2 x languish
1 x priest of the blood rite
1 x gilt-leaf winnower
2 x nightfire giant
1 x embermaw hellion

9 x swamp
7 x mountain
2 x dragonskull summit
1 x consul's foundry
1 x rogue's passage
1 x looming spires
3 x evolving wilds

that is one confused decklist.

Gearcrafter over Engineer?!
You gotta max out Act of Treason, Husks, Fleshbag, Priest. You really could use those Smoldering Abominations in this build. I'd say a splash of a Vampiric Rites wouldn't be out of the question either. Oh, and 3x Carrier Thrall makes sense too.

Dont have any of them :S thats my biggest problem the poor number of cards I have to include in my deck

oh sorry, I assumed you had all the cards. Ok then what you should be doing is putting up what your decklist SHOULD be if you had all the cards, that way you'll know if you're building towards something decent. Then you can mention which cards you're missing and we can help you think of substitutes.

How's your green collection? If it's decent, you can splash green into this to make up for a few of this temporary holes. You can put in stuff like Blisterpod, Evolutionary Leap, Eyeless Watcher and those are really good placeholders until you get the cards you're missing.

Your reality will soon be mine when the new expansions hit since I only have 10k gold and will be missing tons of cards for optimal builds.

From the cards you said in your first post I only have 1x Carrier thrall. Talking about green I have 2x evolutionary leap and 2 eyeless whatcher... I also have 2 undercity troll 1 zendikar incarnation and 1 zendikar's roil so you think any of them would be valuable??

None of the green stuff you mentioned is worth converting this deck into Jund (B/R/G), IMHO. It will slow you down a little to add a 3rd color and none of the additions would benefit your deck enough to be worth that cost. Evolutionary Leap is debatable, but isn't enough motivation on it's own for me personally.

What might help you is adding some Bloodflow Connoisseurs (contextually can be better than a husk, but usually isn't - though still giving you a free instant speed sac option which is something you want more of in a deck with a bunch of myrs, arsonists, and some treasons), Blazing Hellhounds, or even Voracious Nulls (worst of the sac option creatures to have, with the AI's reprisals looming and sorcery speed (1)B sac ability activation, but at least it's something). In your current deck, if you don't draw one of your two husks, you're hurting.

If you do go more sacrificey, you'll probably want to add more Act of Treasons, or even Traitorous Instincts if you don't have enough treasons. Instinct will be harder to use in combination with hellhound or null, but against the hard AI it shouldn't be too much of a problem for you to get to a point where you can do that before you're dead. I wouldn't go that route unless you do put in more sacrifice options in the form of permanents, but if you can do that, those steal-for-a-turn spells will turn into SfaT + removal spells and add insult to injury.

When Barney suggests you make Jund Deck.. The Winningteam gets excited.. (Why can't poor people just buy more money? - Mitt Romney)

lol, that sure sounds like Romney.

Here's my favourite one along that vein...

Anyone else excited for Rakdos Vampires? The cards we got seem great to me...

Vampire Madness, version 1.0
Creatures (20):
4 x Insolent Neonate

3 x Ravenous Bloodseeker
3 x Heir of Falkenrath
3 x Olivia's Bloodsworn

1 x Olivia, Mobilized for War

1 x Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
2 x Elusive Tormentor

3 x Incorrigible Youths

Non-creature spells (18):
3 x Sinister Concoction

2 x Avacyn's Judgment
4 x Senseless Rage

3 x Stensia Masquerade
4 x Fiery Temper
2 x Exquisite Firecraft

Lands (22):
8 x Swamp
10 x Mountain
2 x Dragonskull Summit
2 x Smoldering Marsh


I'd like to hear your input!

Here is my Rakdos brew for OtG/SoI. In true rakdos fashion it's all about killing everything it can get it's hands on and making the rest bleed. It's got 13 discard outlets (at least 3 reusable) for it's 11 madness cards. The main focus is [Alms of the vein[/card] used with madness, as a 6 point switch for 1 mana is completely broken. You hit them with burn and life drain while destroying their board presence to allow the modest creature base to get in where they can. The main concern I have for the deck though is running out of steam with all the madness casting.

R/B Controlled Bleed
Link: http://www.magicduelshelper.com/decklis ... 5bc4e7a7a6
Creature(8)
3x Heir of Falkenrath
2x Ravenous Bloodseeker
1x Avaricious Dragon
1x Olivia, Mobilized for War
1x Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet

Instant(9)
3x Grasp of Darkness
3x Lightning Axe
3x Fiery Temper

Sorcery(16)
3x Murderous Compulsion
1x Macabre Waltz
4x Alms of the Vein
2x Read the Bones
3x Oblivion Strike
1x Avacyn's Judgment
2x Exquisite Firecraft

Enchantment(2)
2x Sinister Concoction

Planeswalker(1)
1x Nahiri, the Harbinger

Land(24)
2x Shambling Vent
1x Mortuary Mire
2x Smoldering Marsh
8x Swamp
6x Mountain
2x Cinder Barrens
1x Isolated Chapel
2x Dragonskull Summit

THIS IS NOT RAKDOS buddy you wearing white.

Eldrazicide

Description
Nettledrone / Eldrazi aggro beatdown. Probably weak against sweepers but has a few tricks up its sleeve and strong all-round critters on a lowish curve.

Creature(36)
4 x Sludge Crawler
3 x Reaver Drone
2 x Bearer of Silence
2 x Essence Depleter
2 x Sifter of Skulls
2 x Immobilizer Eldrazi
4 x Nettle Drone
3 x Vile Aggregate
3 x Forerunner of Slaughter
3 x Flayer Drone
2 x Dust Stalker
2 x Eldrazi Mimic
2 x Matter Reshaper
2 x Thought-Knot Seer

Artifact(2)
2 x Stoneforge Masterwork

Land(22)
6 x Swamp
2 x Smoldering Marsh
5 x Mountain
2 x Dragonskull Summit
1 x Wastes
2 x Crumbling Vestige
2 x Evolving Wilds
2 x Ruins of Oran-Rief


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This is my take on Eldrazi Aggro beatdown. All utility comes from the creatures and the only non-creatures are equipments which should be super awesome in tribal decks like this one (and cheap enough to be playable). The big hitter is nettledrone, with him and flayer drone on the board... except some heavy-duty pinging action, hence the non existence of 4 cmc+ eldrazi (could change in later builds). Sadly there isn't much ingest action in this group so wasteland strangler got cut... But its another of my test builds to see if this kind of deck can work or if its just wishful thinking.
The lands are kind of wonky too... This is in fact a 3-color deck (black/red/colorless). Needs work and testing...

Try it out, take it for a spin and let me know what you think.
Btw, no SOI cards in this build so if your like me and don't have enough gold for a complete unlock and are going for oath first...

Looks nice. Since there is no Lord or Anthem or Overrun for colorless, and you don't have a huge amount of evasion, I fear your opponent will stabilize with 3 life a lot of times. I guess the idea is you use Nettledrone and Flayer for reach once the big blockers come down. You will be VERY soft to sweepers in that case. Maybe swap out the Nettledrones for Firecraft/Touch of the Void or even Thunder. That way you can finish the game with an empty board.

Thats what I also think will kill this deck... but, matter reshaper could give me a post-sweeper body or sifter of skulls should leave me with an army of 1/1 scions. And in a stalemate essence depleter should also be able to ping a few hits and gain some life... if the mana permits it...

And... in a perfect world, thought-knot seer lets me take a peak at his hand and exile that naughty languish!